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what it was.  But I will try my damnest to steer away from this topic in the future. May I suggest you read my posts on an empty stomach from now on. ~Stu

 Or at least an empty mind.

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what it was.  But I will try my damnest to steer away from this topic in the future. May I suggest you read my posts on an empty stomach from now on. ~Stu Or at least an empty mind.

LOL Got a good chuckle out of that. I think with JD, that goes without saying.  Some reach towards the Void, JD is already there. — ~Stu

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Dylan, This subject covers too much ground – and particularly on subjects that are ‘touchy’/are handle with care. I am continuing to compile information on this subject but it is not likely suitable for a NG post due to its length. I don’t have any questions myself on this other than its origin/history and parallels it has with the Western religions. If I arrive at anything I will send you an email. Or I may bust it up into pieces and put them up as separate posts. I am working on the mudras/bandhas right now and collecting it along the way. One example of the complexity of the whole issue is ‘burning karma’ which I have been collecting for some time. I have references to hatha yoga/pranayama/chanting OM and meditation and of course samadhi burning karma. Does one forgive oneself of their own sins – there is food for thought. How is Grace accomplished in the West (forgivness of sins)? It is quite thorny/complex/the answer is not going to be a crowd pleaser/will not please some and certainly will offend others. Moreover the whole issue is bound up with karma/suffering/justice/morality/evil/sins and theodicy. Not a simple/easy/short answer on any account. There are a host of other issues that are much simpler but if you address one then someone is sure to want the others. You very definitely have identified a real issue that needs to be addressed. Mike Dubbeld

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sneaky because while you are doing it you may feel not only ok but great from the endorphins. The rewards for doing pranayama far exceed the efforts. It is one of the easiest ways to gain success in yoga and become more inwardly happy. When you charge up with pranayama the energy spills out from you like a glass that overflows once filled. This energy is felt by others from your voice and just being in your area. It goes far far beyond this with psychic powers Mike Dubbeld I was wondering, how much of the energy and happiness you gain from yoga and pranayama is spiritual, and how much is purely physical? There are definitely massive amounts of chemicals doing different things to our bodies all the time, including when we exercise (the endorphins you mentioned). What is your opinion? Is there a point that you have to reach mentally before something like this turns from purely physical, to spiritual or psychological? Just curious. Dylan Rolfe

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Greetings, <snip I am sorry that something I said made you barf. I am not clear about what it was. But I will try my damnest to steer away from this topic in the future. May I suggest you read my posts on an empty stomach from now on. ~Stu Stu you use that three strategy method i do also take it leave it confuse it. Where did you get the idea matter was energy true its convertable but false its not energy as matter/mass until applications as say explosions but most of the time all the atoms remain the same mass unfractured/split so the bonding releases usually give the energies not the mass or then rebonding applications and energy. We can take an atom split a single atom release energy but we cant put it back together and the energy released is just the parts inside disconnecting trying to recombine before they dis-c*-in-igrate (*center) return too 2D from 3D. They often have trouble as incomplete fractures . I burn wood the bonds break the mass hyper accelerates friction occurs temp raises light errupts from a field low temp low light alot of reds oranges but i increase temp 9hyper accerate via oxygen its structure to application the field luminens increase brighter color its not electron shells. At these low temps no splitting atoms so no returning particles which dimensional bonds are tigher than simple chemical……but particles are particles still not energy its just the transfer of 60 miles an hour they bounce back theres energy there no chemical or particle bonding applications. Energy or so many ways to gain energy but if you have no mass you have no energy yet you can have all the energy in the universe get no mass……To get mass you need dimensions spatial not applications. But i didnt have jew chemy jew physics i had white aryan trash chemy physics the private stuff before the ww war era. So i dont relate well with the hoarding mass’s that believe. I use fields dimensions potentials varous bonding stuff structures infintismal tubes not the wretched crippled stuff and i wont believe some jew bastards that won some contest to beat a eastern orthodox russian royal estate via a bunch of capitalist userous swindlers that knew just a bit more i take white pride here along with every other "title" i am a socialist nazi chemist not political but chemy your talking to a nazi. You aint never going to here JD talking jew chemy. I had the real dope pal i know what was up…..i know exactly why they got creamed and they just dont learn.Its a small social world lets keep it as the first american university cut in stone on the archs knowledge is power very bad logic juxtapositions……but its jew racist philo and it usually goes so long before kaboom. You got took for a ride buddy by thompson bohr einstien some war effort trust me its is going to backfire not me i paid attention. I got my 75$ back. <snip (Stu)

Greetings, Stu your a smart guy you know better than this….its that 20th century freak stuff where everything blends cause thiers no solid answers from lame fundamentals that starts it. So pretty soon everything becomes the other in a mixed up sort of way. Energy has three states right …..matter or mass is a solid liquid or gas right nothing to it in a 4D reality. Its really simple if you were taught the correct european turn of the 19th century chemy. <snip stu wrote This question does not make sense. You can not separate the physical from the spiritual. One flows out of the other. 20th century physics tells us that energy and matter are one. Yoga lets us experience that effect first hand. Finally the physical body the physiological body the quantum body…….every educated person i’ve ever met knows the spirits were the physiological forces or the spiritual is the aka physiological …classical words or modern words whatever…….the one that makes me barf is some early pre ww2 christian nonsense like body mind spirit or body mind a worse approach that many baby boomers were sucked into that

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Greetings, Stu your a smart guy you know better than this….its that 20th century freak stuff where everything blends cause thiers no solid answers from lame fundamentals that starts it. So pretty soon everything becomes the other in a mixed up sort of way. Energy has three states right ……matter or mass is a solid liquid or gas right nothing to it in a 4D reality. Its really simple if you were taught the correct european turn of the 19th century chemy. <snip stu wrote This question does not make sense. You can not separate the physical from the spiritual. One flows out of the other. 20th century physics tells us that energy and matter are one. Yoga lets us experience that effect first hand. Finally the physical body the physiological body the quantum body…….every educated person i’ve ever met knows the spirits were the physiological forces or the spiritual is the aka physiological ….classical words or modern words whatever…….the one that makes me barf is some early pre ww2 christian nonsense like body mind spirit or body mind a worse approach that many baby boomers were sucked into

I am sorry that something I said made you barf.  I am not clear about what it was.  But I will try my damnest to steer away from this topic in the future. May I suggest you read my posts on an empty stomach from now on. ~Stu

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sneaky because while you are doing it you may feel not only ok but great from the endorphins. The rewards for doing pranayama far exceed the efforts. It is one of the easiest ways to gain success in yoga and become more inwardly happy. When you charge up with pranayama the energy spills out from you like a glass that overflows once filled. This energy is felt by others from your voice and just being in your area. It goes far far beyond this with psychic powers Mike Dubbeld I was wondering, how much of the energy and happiness you gain from yoga and pranayama is spiritual,

You must have read my mind Dylan! For the last few days I have been researching JUST THAT ISSUE. In yoga and Tantra we find them speaking of a Divine/Cosmic/Adamantine Body. The Kashmir Shaivism poetess Lalla describes how she ceases the serpent by the tail —– Mircea Eliade in Yoga Immortality and Freedom identified there is a move toward asceticism from centralized Vedantic and Mahayana control. No more is there fossilized Vedic ritual. Control is given to the individual. It is too late tonight and I have a long day tomorrow but I will respond to this in a much better way with references. The whole thing gets into both Free Will and Grace from a Western perspective. However the bottom line is only thinkers recognize this as a problem. The actual act of the thinker participating in samadhi removes all doubt as to what is going on. I have been down this road before on alt.drugs.psychedelic where they believe drugs achieve the same results. Wrong. I will plug my notes in on this in a couple of days. Maybe start another post. I have found offensive literarture in Tantra – the Kularnava and its Buddhist equivalent – both of which talk about meat/wine and sex in rituals – which isn’t exactly wrong but what it ended up being is likely pretty much a joke. Again I will elaborate in a couple of days. (I have specific yogic texts like The Shiva Samhitas and Gheranda Samhita and Yoga Upanishads and Goraksa Paddhati and Yoga Bija and others which I can not dig out right now but all specifically adress the Divine Body and the emphasis of control of the individual/autonomy in the matter – as well as the Western philospher equivalent responses along these lines – again with specific references.) Tomorrow I am getting several of those texts I mentioned from a special bookstore in Virginia. Never use the expression ‘anyone can pop a pill’ until you see if alt.drugs.psychedelics is crossposted! Mike Dubbeld and how much is purely physical? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There are definitely massive amounts of chemicals doing different things to our bodies all the time, including when we exercise (the endorphins you mentioned). What is your opinion? Is there a point that you have to reach mentally before something like this turns from purely physical, to spiritual or psychological? Just curious. Dylan Rolfe

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Greetings, Stu your a smart guy you know better than this….its that 20th century freak stuff where everything blends cause thiers no solid answers from lame fundamentals that starts it. So pretty soon everything becomes the other in a mixed up sort of way. Energy has three states right ……matter or mass is a solid liquid or gas right nothing to it in a 4D reality. Its really simple if you were taught the correct european turn of the 19th century chemy. <snip stu wrote This question does not make sense. You can not separate the physical from the spiritual. One flows out of the other. 20th century physics tells us that energy and matter are one. Yoga lets us experience that effect first hand. Finally the physical body the physiological body the quantum body…….every educated person i’ve ever met knows the spirits were the physiological forces or the spiritual is the aka physiological ….classical words or modern words whatever…….the one that makes me barf is some early pre ww2 christian nonsense like body mind spirit or body mind a worse approach that many baby boomers were sucked into

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sneaky because while you are doing it you may feel not only ok but great from the endorphins. The rewards for doing pranayama far exceed the efforts. It is one of the easiest ways to gain success in yoga and become more inwardly happy. When you charge up with pranayama the energy spills out from you like a glass that overflows once filled. This energy is felt by others from your voice and just being in your area. It goes far far beyond this with psychic powers Mike Dubbeld I was wondering, how much of the energy and happiness you gain from yoga and pranayama is spiritual, and how much is purely physical?

This question does not make sense.  You can not separate the physical from the spiritual.  One flows out of the other.  20th century physics tells us that energy and matter are one.  Yoga lets us experience that effect first hand. There are definitely massive amounts of chemicals doing different things to our bodies all the time, including when we exercise (the endorphins you mentioned). What is your opinion?

In exercise, as we progress we alter the physical makeup of our bodies.  Our muscles become stronger, we metabolize food and air more efficiently, etc. These physical changes are the results of perspiration.  Ultimately the results of faith.  A faith in improving one’s life/body. In yoga, as we allow our selves to melt away and come in contact with our being there will be changes in physiology.  As long as we are careful about our chosen path these changes will represent progress.  Greater energy, increased attention spans, greater focus, mindful reactions – all measurable as changes in body chemistry and energy.  Balanced galvenomic skin response, consistent theta waves in brain scans; etc.  The measurable physiological changes flow from the yoga practice.  The yoga practice flows from the student’s desire to improve one’s life/body. Is there a point that you have to reach mentally before something like this turns from purely physical, to spiritual or psychological? Just curious. Dylan Rolfe

What do you mean by "mentally"? I understand the brain as an organ of my body.  However the mind does not exist in the brain.  Research has shown RNA holds memory through out the body; we hold stress in different parts of the body; We talk about "gut" reactions.  Where does the mind end and the body begin?  It is all one. The CNS is linked from the brain to every cell in the body. If you practice your asanas with mindfulness they will not be "purely physical". — ~Stu

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Sneaky because while you are doing it you may feel not only ok but great from the endorphins. The rewards for doing pranayama far exceed the efforts. It is one of the easiest ways to gain success in yoga and become more inwardly happy. When you charge up with pranayama the energy spills out from you like a glass that overflows once filled. This energy is felt by others from your voice and just being in your area. It goes far far beyond this with psychic powers Mike Dubbeld

I was wondering, how much of the energy and happiness you gain from yoga and pranayama is spiritual, and how much is purely physical? There are definitely massive amounts of chemicals doing different things to our bodies all the time, including when we exercise (the endorphins you mentioned). What is your opinion? Is there a point that you have to reach mentally before something like this turns from purely physical, to spiritual or psychological? Just curious. Dylan Rolfe

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Hi Ed, Long before there were any physical techniques or pranayama yoga existed. It is mentioned by Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita in a war that was supposed to have happened 3000 years BC. According to some the ‘proto-shiva’ – seals found from Mohenjo Daro (more than 2500 BC) portrait Shiva in Mulabandhasana, which is an advanced asana. This indicates that asana-practise is *old*. Marcus

Weather it is *old* or not, there are Yoga paths that do not put emphasis on pranayama and or physical exercises. To call them all *no Yoga* I do not dare to do. They are specialized on certain aspects. I agree to say that it is better to have an "integrative package" that includes all yogic aspects – including asanas and pranayama – but I don’t want to judge that if studying certain aspects in this life and in the next life another aspect wouldn’t be helpfull too – it’s just a matter of your timetable how many lifes you want to spend But the yogic paths are manyfold … — Sat Nam – Hari Har Singh FAQ altyoga newsgroup: http://www.altyoga.de.vu Kundalini Yoga: http://www.3ho.de/

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Hi Ed, Long before there were any physical techniques or pranayama yoga existed. It is mentioned by Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita in a war that was supposed to have happened 3000 years BC. In contrast I believe the first beginnings of physical yogic techniques/hatha yoga began to appear 1500 BC in the earliest Upanishads. But I am not certain off hand. Patanjali the ‘Father of Yoga’ some have around 200 BC but anyway he barely even mentions either in his famous Yoga Sutras (threads). Concentration and Meditation is emphasized in yoga – pranayama/ asana/yama/niyama are all tools to increase  success at this. The analogy is given the mind is like a kite and the breath a string. By controlling the breath we control the mind. This is an example of ‘matter over mind’ as opposed to ‘mind over matter’. Yama and Niyama are a set of moral values that increase will power and dethachment from things in the world by selfless action and at the same time shrink the ego – all of which greatly enhance the possibility of success in concentration. (meditation is not really strived for because it simply flows out of sustained concentration. Concentration however requires a lot of all the above) I have never been to a yoga class that did not do pranayama of some sort. In the West yoga is thought of mainly as a series of postures. It is how much emphasis that a type of yoga has on pranayama. Bhakti yoga or devotional or love yoga does not emphasize pranayama or asana. That doens’t mean for a moment however they do not do it. Bhakti yoga is the closest analogy to Christianity. Kundalini or Laya yoga on the other hand is emphasizes pranayama a lot. So does hatha yoga. But different types. I thought I was real smart knowing how to move energy from hatha yoga in the body. Then I found Kundalini Yoga and I was just amazed at what this form of yoga does/it alters your consciousness in amazing ways and taught me a lot about pranayama. They are much more strenuous in their activities and progress is rapid. If you do a find using alta vista advanced search on 3HO and Kundalini and your town name you may find one close to you. http://www.kundaliniyoga.org/links01.html#USA I just sent the above web page to someone else about 2 hours ago. It is a Kundalini Yoga site locator. Also do a search on ‘Sivananda OM Page’ to find this organizations yoga classes. I am not sure how much emphasis Kriya Yoga has on pranayama but that is another good one to try. Iyengar people seem to like but for pranayama he was too slow for my taste. (but with pranayama it is better to be safe than sorry) If you want to really benefit from pranayama you should do alternate nostril breathing also called nadi sudi or anuloma vilonoma. All else aside – you will thank yourself the rest of your life for the benefits it brings. This purifies the nadis and is done after abdominal charging/kapalabhati. From doing this activity alone the benefits it brings will inspire you to find the other jewels found in yoga. But do it with caution and read the medical warnings. Some people can not do it at all. (I would still do a modified version of it/take my chances). I have a pranayama schedual. Forgot all about it. People usually just want the concentration and meditation article. It is long so send me an email and I will send it to you if you want. But it is a lot of fun attending classes. I can’t tell you how many nice people I met in yoga classes. Also there are other sorts of breathing techniques by Qi Gong which is Chinese. Mike Dubbeld

Mike, Do all types of yoga include Pranayama exercises? Thanks, Ed

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Pranayama is yogic breathing exercises. They are for the purpose of increasing concentration. The program I learned takes 3 years on average to complete the specific goal of nadi purification. Nadis are nerve currents that result in physical counter parts in the form of nerves/neurons/plexus’s. For playing the clainet I suggest that you have a stamina subject. I run and exercise to increase my wind capacity and stamina/it is easier to hold the breath longer for this. It is pretty unbelievable how far I can swim underwater. Nearly the distance of an olympic pool. I recommend exercise not pranayama/yogic breathing instead. Either way – pranayama or exercise – you win. I do both. Because you are new to this you may think like most people ‘its just air’. This is a serious mistake that can get you into trouble fast doing yogic breathing exercises. Pay close attention to the counts given and stick to them. The breathing can be sneaky such that its true effects may not show up for a few hours. (as pain if you do something stupid) Sneaky because while you are doing it you may feel not only ok but great from the endorphins. I recommend Swami Vishnudevananda’s Complete Illustrated Book of Yoga. Only about 15$ and I used it for years and  had no trouble till I went beyond my capacity. (think about not sleeping for days at a time for example – you would have to do something pretty extreme for that to happen but with the wrong attitude – ‘its just air’ you could kill yourself also if you were extreme enough).  The book is in print and likely at any bookstore or they can get it easy enough. But like I say for stamina I use exercise. I build up a charge of energy using pranyama. It does not take 3 years to benefit from pranayama – but for the purpose intended on average to purify the nadis it takes that long. Ever day twice a day. Probably after 2-3 months you will definitely see changes occuring. But then – yogi’s are vegetarians and don’t eat junk food. (at least not much – I eat too much of it). The rewards for doing pranayama far exceed the efforts. It is one of the easiest ways to gain success in yoga and become more inwardly happy. When you charge up with pranayama the energy spills out from you like a glass that overflows once filled. This energy is felt by others from your voice and just being in your area. It goes far far beyond this with psychic powers – get some books or turn to your yellow pages and look up some yoga schools in your area. Mike Dubbeld Hi, I’m interested in studying yoga so that I can learn breathing techniques that will assist me in playing the clarinet.  See how I know nothing about yoga, I am hoping to get some advice here.  I have no idea as to what style/school I should study at, how long it will take me to be instructed in the breathing techniques that I am interested in. Any pointers? Thanks, Ed Stuart

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Dear Ed, No, not all types. There are types of Yoga that do even exclude physical exercises. But the "major" Yoga paths known in the west as Hatha, Kundalini, Iyengar etc. include pranayama. — Sat Nam – Hari Har Singh FAQ altyoga newsgroup: http://www.altyoga.de.vu Kundalini Yoga: http://www.3ho.de/

Mike, Do all types of yoga include Pranayama exercises? Thanks, Ed

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Pranayama is yogic breathing exercises. They are for the purpose of increasing concentration. The program I learned takes 3 years on average to complete the specific goal of nadi purification. Nadis are nerve currents that result in physical counter parts in the form of nerves/neurons/plexus’s. For playing the clainet I suggest that you have a stamina subject. I run and exercise to increase my wind capacity and stamina/it is easier to hold the breath longer for this. It is pretty unbelievable how far I can swim underwater. Nearly the distance of an olympic pool. I recommend exercise not pranayama/yogic breathing instead. Either way – pranayama or exercise – you win. I do both. Because you are new to this you may think like most people ‘its just air’. This is a serious mistake that can get you into trouble fast doing yogic breathing exercises. Pay close attention to the counts given and stick to them. The breathing can be sneaky such that its true effects may not show up for a few hours. (as pain if you do something stupid) Sneaky because while you are doing it you may feel not only ok but great from the endorphins. I recommend Swami Vishnudevananda’s Complete Illustrated Book of Yoga. Only about 15$ and I used it for years and  had no trouble till I went beyond my capacity. (think about not sleeping for days at a time for example – you would have to do something pretty extreme for that to happen but with the wrong attitude – ‘its just air’ you could kill yourself also if you were extreme enough).  The book is in print and likely at any bookstore or they can get it easy enough. But like I say for stamina I use exercise. I build up a charge of energy using pranyama. It does not take 3 years to benefit from pranayama – but for the purpose intended on average to purify the nadis it takes that long. Ever day twice a day. Probably after 2-3 months you will definitely see changes occuring. But then – yogi’s are vegetarians and don’t eat junk food. (at least not much – I eat too much of it). The rewards for doing pranayama far exceed the efforts. It is one of the easiest ways to gain success in yoga and become more inwardly happy. When you charge up with pranayama the energy spills out from you like a glass that overflows once filled. This energy is felt by others from your voice and just being in your area. It goes far far beyond this with psychic powers – get some books or turn to your yellow pages and look up some yoga schools in your area. Mike Dubbeld Hi, I’m interested in studying yoga so that I can learn breathing techniques that will assist me in playing the clarinet.  See how I know nothing about yoga, I am hoping to get some advice here.  I have no idea as to what style/school I should study at, how long it will take me to be instructed in the breathing techniques that I am interested in. Any pointers? Thanks, Ed Stuart

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Pranayama is yogic breathing exercises. They are for the purpose of increasing concentration. The program I learned takes 3 years on average to complete the specific goal of nadi purification. Nadis are nerve currents that result in physical counter parts in the form of nerves/neurons/plexus’s. For playing the clainet I suggest that you have a stamina subject. I run and exercise to increase my wind capacity and stamina/it is easier to hold the breath longer for this. It is pretty unbelievable how far I can swim underwater. Nearly the distance of an olympic pool. I recommend exercise not pranayama/yogic breathing instead. Either way – pranayama or exercise – you win. I do both. Because you are new to this you may think like most people ‘its just air’. This is a serious mistake that can get you into trouble fast doing yogic breathing exercises. Pay close attention to the counts given and stick to them. The breathing can be sneaky such that its true effects may not show up for a few hours. (as pain if you do something stupid) Sneaky because while you are doing it you may feel not only ok but great from the endorphins. I recommend Swami Vishnudevananda’s Complete Illustrated Book of Yoga. Only about 15$ and I used it for years and  had no trouble till I went beyond my capacity. (think about not sleeping for days at a time for example – you would have to do something pretty extreme for that to happen but with the wrong attitude – ‘its just air’ you could kill yourself also if you were extreme enough).  The book is in print and likely at any bookstore or they can get it easy enough. But like I say for stamina I use exercise. I build up a charge of energy using pranyama. It does not take 3 years to benefit from pranayama – but for the purpose intended on average to purify the nadis it takes that long. Ever day twice a day. Probably after 2-3 months you will definitely see changes occuring. But then – yogi’s are vegetarians and don’t eat junk food. (at least not much – I eat too much of it). The rewards for doing pranayama far exceed the efforts. It is one of the easiest ways to gain success in yoga and become more inwardly happy. When you charge up with pranayama the energy spills out from you like a glass that overflows once filled. This energy is felt by others from your voice and just being in your area. It goes far far beyond this with psychic powers – get some books or turn to your yellow pages and look up some yoga schools in your area. Mike Dubbeld

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’m interested in studying yoga so that I can learn breathing techniques that will assist me in playing the clarinet.  See how I know nothing about yoga, I am hoping to get some advice here.  I have no idea as to what style/school I should study at, how long it will take me to be instructed in the breathing techniques that I am interested in. Any pointers? Thanks, Ed Stuart

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Mike, Do all types of yoga include Pranayama exercises? Thanks, Ed – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Pranayama is yogic breathing exercises. They are for the purpose of increasing concentration. The program I learned takes 3 years on average to complete the specific goal of nadi purification. Nadis are nerve currents that result in physical counter parts in the form of nerves/neurons/plexus’s. For playing the clainet I suggest that you have a stamina subject. I run and exercise to increase my wind capacity and stamina/it is easier to hold the breath longer for this. It is pretty unbelievable how far I can swim underwater. Nearly the distance of an olympic pool. I recommend exercise not pranayama/yogic breathing instead. Either way – pranayama or exercise – you win. I do both. Because you are new to this you may think like most people ‘its just air’. This is a serious mistake that can get you into trouble fast doing yogic breathing exercises. Pay close attention to the counts given and stick to them. The breathing can be sneaky such that its true effects may not show up for a few hours. (as pain if you do something stupid) Sneaky because while you are doing it you may feel not only ok but great from the endorphins. I recommend Swami Vishnudevananda’s Complete Illustrated Book of Yoga. Only about 15$ and I used it for years and  had no trouble till I went beyond my capacity. (think about not sleeping for days at a time for example – you would have to do something pretty extreme for that to happen but with the wrong attitude – ‘its just air’ you could kill yourself also if you were extreme enough).  The book is in print and likely at any bookstore or they can get it easy enough. But like I say for stamina I use exercise. I build up a charge of energy using pranyama. It does not take 3 years to benefit from pranayama – but for the purpose intended on average to purify the nadis it takes that long. Ever day twice a day. Probably after 2-3 months you will definitely see changes occuring. But then – yogi’s are vegetarians and don’t eat junk food. (at least not much – I eat too much of it). The rewards for doing pranayama far exceed the efforts. It is one of the easiest ways to gain success in yoga and become more inwardly happy. When you charge up with pranayama the energy spills out from you like a glass that overflows once filled. This energy is felt by others from your voice and just being in your area. It goes far far beyond this with psychic powers – get some books or turn to your yellow pages and look up some yoga schools in your area. Mike Dubbeld Hi, I’m interested in studying yoga so that I can learn breathing techniques that will assist me in playing the clarinet.  See how I know nothing about yoga, I am hoping to get some advice here.  I have no idea as to what style/school I should study at, how long it will take me to be instructed in the breathing techniques that I am interested in. Any pointers? Thanks, Ed Stuart

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Hi, I’m interested in studying yoga so that I can learn breathing techniques that will assist me in playing the clarinet.  See how I know nothing about yoga, I am hoping to get some advice here.  I have no idea as to what style/school I should study at, how long it will take me to be instructed in the breathing techniques that I am interested in. Any pointers? Thanks, Ed Stuart

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