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Improper Stretching Is A Waste Of Mind (Repost)

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Steve, Thanks for your kind words.  Am pleased to be part of your journey. Regarding the jewelry,  I’ve put five or six small medals on a chain, so that they hung down my back.  As I ran, I could hear which leg was hitting harder.  I learned that if I picked up the other foot just slightly faster I could balance out the rhythm of the jingling medals.  After that I played with learning to swing my left elbow a quarter of an inch further forward to relax the shoulder (since my left arm is the one with which I carried my briefcase the majority of the time).   At other times I’ve put change in my pockets to hear my rhythm and to smooth it out.  At other times I have a small plastic contain that had ear plugs in it.  I put in 3 dimes and pinned it on my shorts at the mid line so that I could hear that rhythm. One Christmas season, I wore two big Christmas jingle bells, one on each shoe.  I couldn’t believe how many people were getting pissed at me.   At about mile 3 one of the bell notches cut through my shoelace so I had to stop and get my shoe lace knotted together.  I took the other bell off and just carried them in my hands. Another thing I tried was making two 12 or 14 inch PVC batons 1" diameter. I put a marble in each and then glued end caps on them.  When holding on the baton I could create and balance the rhythms of the marbles hitting the ends and could tell which side was holding by the rhythms. My embarrassing moments come when I’m laying on a gutter or contorted against a chair or park bench or against some railings and someone comes up and says: "Are you okay?"  Should I call 911? On the aisles of the shopping market, I’ve been asked  "Is there something I can do to help you?"  To practice stretching the leg behind me as I push the cart especially if it is fairly full, I can keep the back foot on the ground longer by bending my knees.  It doing the yoga pose where you balance on one leg hands extended in front and hands/body/other leg are the cross bar on the T…but more of an elongated lambda.  I remember being focused on letting go of a tight quad once and went right into a stack of Raisin Bran boxes. At times I run with ear plugs so that I can hear myself internally and better feel the internal impacts and sounds. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well Ozzie, it’s been a while since you answered my question on this and the concept has been one the things that has helped this old body try and succeed at 3 marathons since then. I’ll get back to them in a few years but right now I’m concentrating on shorter distances so I can run with my grandchildren. I do not wear jewelry, but if I did it would be a pearl necklace assembled from the pearls I’ve found in your many posts. I’ve found that relative to stretching it helps to let your body slump into a relax state before the stretches and that helps keep me from holding muscles under tension. One of my quads is often tight and I stretch it all the time whenever I’m waiting. Twice now I’ve embarrassed myself in the check-out line at the market. Since the quad is tight I have to kick the leg up behind me quickly and grab my ankle with my hand. Once I kicked the candy rack and stuff went everywhere. Another time I kicked a lady’s open pocketbook and it went up, landed on my shoulder and spilled everything. Oops! Thanks again for your contribution to my well being Steve from NH

– In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang Maintainer – rec.running FAQ Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic, est. 1975 Mindful Running:   http://www.mindfulness.com

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Well Ozzie, it’s been a while since you answered my question on this and the concept has been one the things that has helped this old body try and succeed at 3 marathons since then. I’ll get back to them in a few years but right now I’m concentrating on shorter distances so I can run with my grandchildren. I do not wear jewelry, but if I did it would be a pearl necklace assembled from the pearls I’ve found in your many posts. I’ve found that relative to stretching it helps to let your body slump into a relax state before the stretches and that helps keep me from holding muscles under tension. One of my quads is often tight and I stretch it all the time whenever I’m waiting. Twice now I’ve embarrassed myself in the check-out line at the market. Since the quad is tight I have to kick the leg up behind me quickly and grab my ankle with my hand. Once I kicked the candy rack and stuff went everywhere. Another time I kicked a lady’s open pocketbook and it went up, landed on my shoulder and spilled everything. Oops! Thanks again for your contribution to my well being Steve from NH – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HI Ozzie, <<A weight bearing muscle cannot stretch…just another morsel for thought. Ozzie, you really got me thinking about this.

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HI Ozzie, I posted this last week but my news reader doesn’t seem to get all

messages at times and I’m left wondering who said what in the missing holes. <<A weight bearing muscle cannot stretch…just another morsel for thought. Ozzie, you really got me thinking about this.   One of my favorite stretches is one I do after running and my calves seem to thank me the next morning. I stand with just my toes on a stair tread facing the stairs.  I slowly lower my heels then raise up on my toes. I can’t imagine that most of the muscles in my calve area do not bear weight during this, yet I believed that I’ve been stretching all this time. Could you explain the mechanics involved. Thanks, Steve

Your muscles lengthen (antagonist) and  are stretched more easily when the opposite muscle group (agonist) contracts/shortens (concentric contradctions) and moves the joint in a shortening contraction (flexion). This lengthening of the antagonist muscles and its connective tissues is done without any active tension.   A word about eccentric contractions (called a lengthening contraction). Eccentric contractions are the gradulal releasing of the concentric contractions.  An example of eccentric contraction would be you lowering yourself slowly from the balls (concentric contraction of gastrocs and soleus lifted you onto the balls of the feet) of the feet back down to the floor.   The confusion about eccentric or lengthening contractions is the misinformation which "lengthening contraction" communicates.  In most cases the muscles (which have been contracted) don’t actually lengthen, they simply return from their shortened (concentric contraction) to their normal resting/tonic length. The awareness here is that when you stretch a muscle you are going beyond eccentric contraction.  If a muscle is performing a lengthening contraction it is going back to its normal resting length.  In a stretch of that same muscle you have gone beyond its eccentric contraction and now that muscle has to be in a relaxed state. Mattes talks about endangering the myotatatic (stretch) reflex which protects the muscles.  He sees this actions and the holding of a stretch position for more than 1.5 to 2 seconds causing the muscles being lengthened beyond their tonic/normal resting length to receive greater tension.   Remember you’ve gone beyond the stretch reflex because you’re now straining/stretching muscles to their normal elongation. Now it becomes a danger to the muscle fibers being forcefully elongated. Now going back to you Steve standing with your heels off the tread of the step.  You are lowering yourself so that your heels are now below the horizontal of the step.  If you understand the above, then you’ve gone beyond your stretch reflex and the muscle, gastrocs/soleus which you are stretching are being strained under the weight of your entire gravitational body force.   If there are knots in the soleus or gastrocs, (fascia wrapped tightly around portions of those muscles which were injured through overuse or being overstretched…and contracted to protect themselves from further injury), you are overstretching/straining good muscle fiber that when overstretched can be damaged.  The end result of this good feeling stretch is that there will come a day when you will say, stretching doesn’t work because you have a calf muscle which is almost totally bound up with fascia which like a tourniquet will not allow the muscle to move through its full range of motion (rom). As John Jesse noted:  Fascia has a strong tendendcy to contract due to age, chilling, poor posture, injury to the muscle it surrounds, and muscular imbalance.  Contraction of fascia reduces the range of movement in body joints.  You can begin to see why fascial release which is practiced by Rolfers and people of similar techniques works so well to assist someone get back to better balance and fuller range of motion by allowing those adhesions to be loosened from where they are holding unnecessarily to other fascia/muscles and bone. Something I’ll mention but won’t go into fully since I don’t comprehend it enough to fully explain is the reality of "The Kinetic Chain." In movement there is a chain of nerve firings which take place at various moments in the movement of any body part.  You probably have seen those machines which takes a person through the ROM of a joint so that when healing from surgery on that joint, there is no binding up of the surrounding muscles and tendons.  In walking/running when the muscles within the chain of movement reach the correct position, the nerves fire to set in motion the next part of the chain.  Simply by putting your muscles under an intense stretch, you can interfere with the normal firing of nerves in those muscles so that the  normal, graceful body movement is impaired. There is an elementalism which invades exercise physiology and kineseology. The tendency is to look at each element and break it down into further and further micromovements.  In stretching you can see the same problem, like looking at the stretch of the muscle you are doing on the step.   Isn’t it interesting that the very words "Physiology of Exercise" and "kineseology" address the body in movement.  It teaches what happens in movement but it’s easier to post to rec.running and ask what other individuals have experienced…and with no sense of what the plantar fascia, or peroneus, or agonist/antagonist, or what is the normal range of motion of a particular joint, or becoming mindful of doing things right/correctly…of going slow to go fast, of realizing that running is one of the most graceful dances which man can do…when it is done correctly…and that is measured by lack of injury over time. Hopefully that gives you some ideas to think further about. If you are interested, you can purchase from me:    Hidden Causes of Injury, Prevention and Correction    for Running Athletes and Joggers    by John Jesse.   Send me a check made out to IAM (Int’l Assoc of Marathoners) for $15 which includes handling/postage etc.   Send the check to:    IAM    Attn. Ozzie Gontang    2903 29th Street    San Diego,  CA  92104-4912 — In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang Maintainer – rec.running FAQ Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic, est. 1975 Mindful Running:   http://www.mindfulness.com

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