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Sanatan Dharma/Hinduism. The religion of YOGA
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Ooops! I said; "Finally Inlight you admit to be a cultbuster (although not professional)." But that was a mistake. I forgot that you are a professional Inlight, because you sell Hindu Yoga Teachings for money as you advertised on this news group regarding your expert correspondence course. I am certain that it exposes the inferiority of the new age cults and extols the superiority of your version! Congratulations!
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<< There is a consistency between Inlight’s posts and that of the professional anti-cultists Thanks Saha, Yes, (though not a professional) cultism is definately something to be avoided. Cultism is rampant in the "new age yoga." "Yoga" that has been unethically divorced from Sanatan Dharma or the religion of Hinduism. Note the emphasis on the so-called "yoga teachers" name, picture and price tag. I think you may finally be getting this 
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Classical Yoga/Hinduism is really progressive in nature. Karma Yoga, Bhakti Yoga, Hatha Yoga, Raja Yoga and Jnana Yoga or ethics, devotion, (postures to prepare for) meditation and enlightenment. This natural spiritual growth is also represented by the Classical Yoga of Patanjali–the Sanatanist/Hindu Guru. In Patanjali’s Astanga Yoga: Yama and Niyama correspond to Karma and Bhakti Yoga Asana is Hatha Yoga Pranayama Pratyahara Dharana Dhyana all correspond to Raja Yoga Samadhi = Jnana Yoga The Tamil Saivite Hindus (of which Patanjali was) also describe the classic yogas as: Chariya, Kriya, Yogam and Jnanam, respectively. This is the path of Hinduism. Of course, this natural, progressive spiritual path can be seen in other religions. They all have ethics and devotions and some meditation and some measure of enlightenment. Understanding these basics makes "unity in diversity" a reality. Thus, do we avoid potentally dangerous cultism. In Peace, Inlight
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Finally Inlight you admit to be a cultbuster (although not professional). I appreciate this honesty. Now we are getting some where. Who were your teachers, how did you become a Hindu, how did you gain such "insights" into yoga, and become such an expert? Also what kind of yoga do you practice? Have you studied Patanjali’s Yoga Sutras? A further question (hope its not too complex). If Buddhism has its own form of yoga (and you seem to admit that). Buddhists do not of course consider themselves Hindu. Then what about other developments such as "new yoga", or "sahaj" yoga, or other forms? In other words why do you accept the Jain, Sikh, and Buddhist "upstarts" but not other "new age" types?
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Inlight this is part of the teext that you replied to: "Sadly, even professing Christians have bought into this lie. Every Yoga teacher is, in effect, a Hindu or Buddhist missionary, even though "he or she may wear a cross, insist that Jesus was a great Yogi, and protest that Yoga is not a religion but science. This is the most blatant of lies. Yet it has been so widely proclaimed and believed that in America’s public schools, beginning in kindergarten, and in almost every other area of society today, Yoga and other forms of Hindu- Buddhist occultism are taught and accepted as science." You not only said you agree but admited that you are a new age cult buster. What is it that you find oppressive, threatening, or "evil" in new age yoga?
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Greetings, This works for me simple sentence simple message.Religion is not yoga***** that being valid. But one word has 8 glyphs (religion) one 4 glyphs (yoga) but thats all it takes to have two different words two different realities. Look at these***** to, too and two childish huh three words all sound the same = grin Lets look at Rr sounds arrrr dear fellow fencing knife fighting hand eye coordination say RRR add a exhale aaa move your index finger=grin aha the old sound comes to that POINT. (concentrations).aRRReligions G-Night
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Look at the word Religion.8 glyphs the R=eye hand coordination with exhales of breath a sailors sound concentration external.R=sword/ knife at belt r=gaft fishing tool aha external usage of the body. E=Spine three eye positions remember. L=Legs length dimensions 1-2-3-4 i=Spine halo nimbus g=tongue i=spine two i’s in religion one male one female. o=universal breath n =numbers 45 degrees between 8 digits or fingers 8 of ten appendages two hands. Religion (external usage of the body primary) Yoga (internal usage primary) Yy= micro macro reflections inner o=universal breath g=tongue mouth * A arms at sides breath rising at navel diaphramic
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Of course, Sanatan Dharma a.k.a. Hinduism is the religion of all forms (classical) of Yoga. These spiritual disciplines are one profound way to Spiritual-Realization. If you would like to learn more about Hinduism/Yoga (the "yoga" of today has little to do with the real thing), visit: http://www.classicalyoga.org In Peace, Inlight
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The one consistent thing about Inlight’s posts is that he wants everyone to believe that to practicing yoga is the same as practicing the Hindu religion. Now what is the purpose of his central message? For one, it is because he knows that most Christians are forbidden from practicing other religions while they are not forbidden from practicing yoga (if it is not a religion). Hence his central task and focus.
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The one consistent thing about Inlight’s posts is that he wants everyone to believe that to practicing yoga is the same as practicing the Hindu religion.
Hmm… To practice Yoga properly is a religious experience, and it’s supposed to be so – but it is not a Hindu religion and it’s not involved with any of the rituals of Hinduism. Now what is the purpose of his central message? For one, it is because he knows that most Christians are forbidden from practicing other religions while they are not forbidden from practicing yoga (if it is not a religion). Hence his central task and focus.
Hmm… I hope you are not correct… — Regards, Uri <Disclaimer
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There is a consistency between Inlight’s posts and that of the professional anti-cultists who are bent on labeling yoga as a Hindu religion. At a well known cult busting site: http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Letter/v5n3-1.htm we get the following (not my endorsement): "It is estimated that there are 10,000 yoga teachers in the United States, who teach between 4 and 5 million students a week. Yoga is a program that involves conscious stretching, deliberate movements, controlled breathing and relaxation exercises . It’s purpose is to develop strength, flexibility, balance, body alignment, body awareness, muscular balance, calmness and controlled breathing . Yoga originated from a school of thought in the Hindu religion, which suggests that postures can isolate the soul from the body and the mind . In the Western world, yoga is used mainly as a form of exercise . Yoga comes from the original Sanskrit word, ‘joga,’ which means ‘to join.’ Yoga means to join body, mind and breath; to get them to work together in harmony [This is a lie!]. It’s very gentle, slow and meditative; but it requires concentration. Yoga instructors say they have received a handful of complaints from people who believe yoga is intertwined with mysticism and the occult . [We] acknowledge that yoga does indeed come from a portion of India’s Hindu religion, but [our] classes deal mainly with the physical aspects of yoga, and do not in any way coerce people to become involved in Eastern religion [another lie]." (Source: The Bloomington Herald-Times , 1991.) (Emphasis added.) Sadly, even professing Christians have bought into this lie. Every Yoga teacher is, in effect, a Hindu or Buddhist missionary, even though "he or she may wear a cross, insist that Jesus was a great Yogi, and protest that Yoga is not a religion but science. This is the most blatant of lies. Yet it has been so widely proclaimed and believed that in America’s public schools, beginning in kindergarten, and in almost every other area of society today, Yoga and other forms of Hindu- Buddhist occultism are taught and accepted as science. In contrast, Christianity has been thrown out of the schools and is being crowded out of every other area of life in the "broad-minded" move to replace religion with the New Age ’science’!" (Source: Dave Hunt, Peace, Prosperity, and the Coming Holocaust , p. 147.) The practice of Yoga is pagan at best, and occultic at worse. Its teachings eminate from the Eastern religions, all of which teach that self is God, only we just don’t realize it. "The goal of Yoga is ’self-realization ‘–to look deeply within what ought to be the temple of the one true God and there to discover the alleged ‘true Self’ or ‘higher Self’ and declare self to be God. Nothing could be more religious than that, yet with straight faces all of the Yogis insist that practicing Yoga will not change anyone’s religious beliefs. This is the religion of Antichrist; and for the first time in history it is being widely practiced throughout the Western world as Transcendental Meditation and other forms of Yoga." (Source: Dave Hunt, The Seduction of Christianity , p. 54.) Yoga calls itself science . "By calling itself science , Yoga (which is the very heart of Hinduism), has within the last [30] years become an integral part of Western society, where it is taught in nearly every YMCA or YWCA, in clubs, in public schools, in industry, and in many churches. Dressed in Western clothes, Yoga has gained acceptance in medicine, psychology, education, and religion under such euphemisms as ‘centering,’ ‘relaxation therapy,’ ’self-hypnosis,’ and ‘creative visualization.’ Yoga is designed to lead to the ‘realization’ of one’s true ‘godhood’ through an inward meditative journey that finally locates the ultimate source of everything within the human psyche." (Source: Dave Hunt, The Seduction of Christianity , p. 110.) Hatha-yoga is a popular form of Yoga practiced today by those looking for a form of relaxation and non-strenuous exercise. Johanna Michaelsen, however, correctly discerns: "There is a common misconception in the West that hatha-yoga, one of about ten forms of Yoga that supposedly leads to self-realization, is merely a neutral form of exercise, a soothing and effective alternative for those who abhor jogging and calisthenics … [However], Hatha-yoga is ‘one of the six recognized systems of orthodox Hinduism’ and is at its roots religious and mystical. It is also one of the most difficult and potentially dangerous [spiritually] forms of Yoga. "The term hatha is derived from the verb hath, which means ‘to oppress.’ … What the practice of hatha-yoga is designed to do is suppress the flow of psychic energies through these channels ['symbolic, or psychic, passages on either side of the spinal column'], thereby forcing the ’serpent power’ or the kundalini force to rise through the central psychic channel in the spine (the sushumna ) and up through the chakras , the supposed psychic centers of human personality and power. Westerners mistakenly believe that one can practice hatha-yoga apart from the philosophical and religious beliefs that undergrid it. This is an absolutely false belief. … You cannot separate the exercises from the philosophy. … ‘The movements themselves become a form of meditation.’ The continued practice of the exercises will, whether you … intend it or not , eventually influence you toward an Eastern/mystical perspective. That is what it is meant to do! … There is, by definition, no such thing as ‘neutral’ Yoga " (Like Lambs to the Slaughter , pp. 93-95). (Last emphasis added.) So if someone’s interested in physical exercises that are designed to help one’s body, he should not take Yoga, which is designed for death, and teaches how to reach this state of consciousness* where one gets a better reincarnation. Even the physical positions in Yoga come right out of the Hindu scriptures, and are designed to put one into this state of consciousness where you imagine that you’re God. Therefore, Christians who think they think they’re getting relaxation and/or exercise, are really getting Hinduism! They think they’re getting science, but they’re getting religion. It’s mislabeled and it’s dangerous! (Summarized from Dave Hunt’s comments on a 1988 John Ankerberg Show program, "The New Age in Society.") Commentary: Of course the above material from that web site are full of distortions and lies purposely designed to discourage "good" Christians from Yoga. Is there a very strong similarity between the above quotes and another person on this NG?
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