hypo, coffee, splenda — ping Wilson
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Isn’t dextrose another form of sugar? Regards, Gunn
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m glad to see your post! I’m also hypoglycemic with a spike before the hypo that was long ago described as ‘pre-diabetic’ (dunno about current definitions). How does coffee affect your hypoglycemia? Many people say it stimulates insulin. I usually stay away from all caffeine, but it would be nice to have some mental stimulation…. I seem to have got a spike recently from Splenda — paper packet. "INGREDIENTS: dextrose, maltodextrin, sucralose". How can this be labeled "Suitable for diabetics"? Maybe mine was a fluke, or was just from the taste? Do you get spikes? From what? Skinny I’m a java junkie — what’s this about coffee upsetting weight loss?? If I find myself "stalling" significantly I have an order of things I’ll do to try to reverse it. Quitting coffee is at the *BOTTOM* of my list – I’d… almost rather be fat than not have my cuppa. LOL Actually probably the biggest deterrant to drinking coffee would be if I had to give up creaming it – I don’t like it enough to drink it black, but heavy cream in my coffee is one of the wonderful tradeoffs about being LC. My one-two cups a day with a splash of real cream, are worth all the candy I gave up. Wilson hypo/prediabetic – LC since March – DIYer – two dress sizes down!
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I’m glad to see your post! I’m also hypoglycemic with a spike before the hypo that was long ago described as ‘pre-diabetic’ (dunno about current definitions). How does coffee affect your hypoglycemia? Many people say it stimulates insulin. I usually stay away from all caffeine, but it would be nice to have some mental stimulation…. I don’t know about spikes because I don’t meter my blood sugar. Gee I guess I should!!!
It’s cheap and easy. I’m learning a lot. I didn’t want to prick my fingers but I can get plenty of blood from my arm. I use the strips that ‘drink’ the blood, so I can make more than one hole if necessary and they can ‘drink’ from each. Generally speaking, from symptoms, coffee *lowers* my blood sugar.
I’ve had decaf tea lower mine! Caffeine is said to trigger the release/production of insulin. (As well as releasing stored glucose. I suppose if my glucose is high enough already, the caffeine just brings the insulin.) However since going LC, I find it 1) either isn’t bothering me as much, or 2) the heavy cream in it is slowing the absorption!
Could be. Or cream is a calming thing anyway. Because – Diet Coke DOES give me "the shakes". Whereas my coffee with heavy cream (and ANY sweetener) doesn’t. My body provides me with a wonderful instant feedback system in the carb department. One thing I experience, is horrible splitting awful headaches whenever my carb intake starts creeping up.
I never get headaches. Just energy crashes: suddenly stupid, dull, clumsy…. Usually after some feeling of high energy, which is usually after some carbs…. I can eat carbo foods at night without the headaches, but during the day? Ruins me for the rest of the day.
Same pattern for me, but dullness not headache. Apparently such ‘diurnal variation’ in carb processing is pretty common. For some people it’s the other way round, they can handle carbs in morning better than in evening. Recently I had one carb-up that I can expect to happen every year so long as I have a Jewish auntie-in-law: Passover. It took me a few days of very strict LCing to stop having the splitting headaches.
/snip/ I generally tell people, don’t base anything on *my* claims because it’s been ages since I’ve actually known where I’m at.
I’m trying to find out! When I was described as being prediabetic, it was ages and ages ago.
Me too. At least, ti was around 1980 and I’m not sure I was diagnosed as ‘being prediabetic.’ I was shown a spike on my GTT graph (to 180 maybe?) and told that was a ‘prediabetic spike’ or such. I’ll find out if I’ve become diabetic, soon. That’s actually why I elected to go low-carb. Interestingly, I was a skinny hypoglycemic too, before I went vegetarian (the allegedly ‘healthier’ diet) in 1997 or so. I used to eat high protein with every meal. I liked meat for breakfast.
Me too, growing up. Parents were ranchers, we mostly ate meat and white bread etc. Hardly any fresh veg available. Green beans cooked with potatoes was about it. After going veg – where many protein sources are comingled with carb sources – I started gaining weight.
Around 1980 I was diagnosed mildly hypoglycemic (fast drop from the 180 causing symptoms) and put on a high protein, high fat, no-carb diet. That didn’t help at the time, almost made the adrenalin/anxiety part worse. Went to stay in a yoga ashram with all vegetarian whole grains (special yogic recipies with Indian spices) and that and the yoga seemed to take care of the problem. I drifted back to more junk food and handled it ok, but not back to meat. Actually I was probablly running a bit high carb for a long time, but feeling and functoining very well. In 2002 I spent the summer travelling and practically lived on Hostess chocolate donuts and Nabisco fig newtons.
Kind of nervous and hyper the whole time, wake in the night with heart pounding. Had a marathon drive home and even took some real coffee for the last few hours. Got home and decided I’d better change to a healthier diet, went super low carb. Had all sorts of bad results: stupid all the time, memory loss…. Tried to work carbs back in, experimented with various combinations of carb, caffeine…. In March 2004 I happened to see a reference to using glycerine to relieve symptoms of low blood sugar while adjusting to a low carb diet. Tried it and lost my taste for sugar, pasta, etc. So I got a meter to see what was really going on and started doing low carb again, with better results. Also taking a lot of ‘brain food’ supplements. Dropped caffeine so as not to confuse things. Still haven’t got it tweaked right tho. No big spikes and crashes when I stay very low carb, but I miss the highs for getting work done. Instead of working in more carbs, maybe I should try working caffeine back in…. I’m not veg anymore, and in fact I’m a little disillusioned. I’m back to eating meat every day and I feel GREAT! Apparently my cat shouldn’t be vegetarian, and neither should I. But I respect people who manage to pull it off.
To me it felt very natural. I wouldn’t do it otherwise. Skinny
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I’m glad to see your post! I’m also hypoglycemic with a spike before the hypo that was long ago described as ‘pre-diabetic’ (dunno about current definitions). How does coffee affect your hypoglycemia? Many people say it stimulates insulin. I usually stay away from all caffeine, but it would be nice to have some mental stimulation….
I don’t know about spikes because I don’t meter my blood sugar. Gee I guess I should!!! Generally speaking, from symptoms, coffee *lowers* my blood sugar. However since going LC, I find it 1) either isn’t bothering me as much, or 2) the heavy cream in it is slowing the absorption! Because – Diet Coke DOES give me "the shakes". Whereas my coffee with heavy cream (and ANY sweetener) doesn’t. My body provides me with a wonderful instant feedback system in the carb department. One thing I experience, is horrible splitting awful headaches whenever my carb intake starts creeping up. I can eat carbo foods at night without the headaches, but during the day? Ruins me for the rest of the day. Recently I had one carb-up that I can expect to happen every year so long as I have a Jewish auntie-in-law: Passover. It took me a few days of very strict LCing to stop having the splitting headaches. One thing I find though is coffee *does* help relieve these headaches. But coffee helps me with all headaches in general. I generally tell people, don’t base anything on *my* claims because it’s been ages since I’ve actually known where I’m at. When I was described as being prediabetic, it was ages and ages ago. I’ll find out if I’ve become diabetic, soon. That’s actually why I elected to go low-carb. Interestingly, I was a skinny hypoglycemic too, before I went vegetarian (the allegedly ‘healthier’ diet) in 1997 or so. I used to eat high protein with every meal. I liked meat for breakfast. After going veg – where many protein sources are comingled with carb sources – I started gaining weight. I’m not veg anymore, and in fact I’m a little disillusioned. I’m back to eating meat every day and I feel GREAT! Apparently my cat shouldn’t be vegetarian, and neither should I. But I respect people who manage to pull it off. Wilson
Response:
I’m glad to see your post! I’m also hypoglycemic with a spike before the hypo that was long ago described as ‘pre-diabetic’ (dunno about current definitions). How does coffee affect your hypoglycemia? Many people say it stimulates insulin. I usually stay away from all caffeine, but it would be nice to have some mental stimulation…. I seem to have got a spike recently from Splenda — paper packet. "INGREDIENTS: dextrose, maltodextrin, sucralose". How can this be labeled "Suitable for diabetics"? Maybe mine was a fluke, or was just from the taste? Do you get spikes? From what? Skinny – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m a java junkie — what’s this about coffee upsetting weight loss?? If I find myself "stalling" significantly I have an order of things I’ll do to try to reverse it. Quitting coffee is at the *BOTTOM* of my list – I’d… almost rather be fat than not have my cuppa. LOL Actually probably the biggest deterrant to drinking coffee would be if I had to give up creaming it – I don’t like it enough to drink it black, but heavy cream in my coffee is one of the wonderful tradeoffs about being LC. My one-two cups a day with a splash of real cream, are worth all the candy I gave up. Wilson hypo/prediabetic – LC since March – DIYer – two dress sizes down!
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