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In the logical, rational, mind there is judgement. There is concern with the concept of time, & of best. For me yoga is about letting go of all the thinking, & judging. In this way experience is, sensation is. Even samadhi is a word, letting go of words offers an opportunity to be. We start with words, because they are one of our tools, in the same way, one may choose to a particular asana, or holding time. We are each unique beings, realizing that, accepting ourselves as a one time event in the universe, in this moment seems enough to me. namaste’ sandra
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Has anyone held a posture for say, 2-5 minutes. Would you like to share what went on for you. Were there emotional, physical, mental or spiritual releases of some kind. I recently have experienced some very profound emotional releases around my heart chakra from holding some postures like bridge and cobra. I’d love to hear from you. Paula
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the bridge and cobra are heart opening postures so I am not at all suprised you had openings in these areas – the longer you hold a posture the deeper you allow yourself go into emotional blocks – if you ever have a chance to do a Phenoix Rising Yoga Therapy Session – do it – you may find yourself going even deeper into those emotionals releases
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Has anyone held a posture for say, 2-5 minutes. Would you like to share what went on for you. Were there emotional, physical, mental or spiritual releases of some kind. I recently have experienced some very profound emotional releases around my heart chakra from holding some postures like bridge and cobra. I’d love to hear from you. Paula Paula,
Holding a posture can be a very cathartic experience, and is the basis for yoga therapy. The Bridge and the cobra are both chest openers for the heart chakra, and would provide your body with the opportunity to release any tensions or feelings being held there. When I had my first yoga therapy session I was amazed at the release of emotions and sounds that this experiece provided. Happy holding! It’s always nice to have a facilitator with you to help with the integration of this kind of experience. Kripalu offers trainings in yoga therapy and you may want to find therapists in your area to provide guidance in your experiences. Jai, Linda
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I’d like to knoq what those of use who are relatively inflexible are meant to be doing. I’ve been doing Yoga on & off for several months & find it uncomfortable remaining in many positions for any ( 20 seconds) amount of time. Part of it is my daily posture (sitting at a desk), part is my current body structure, and part is also that I’ve not done Yoga for very long. I presume that if my flexibility level is very low, I should flex as much as I can so as to be able to hold for the same amount of time. Anyone else find this? Stu.
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Doing the poses dynamically is a good approach for those who are especially stiff. That is, moving into and out of the poses w/ much attention paid to breathing. There is much more to this, and, of course different approaches. Viniyoga teachers especially teach this approach, but good yoga teachers in other traditions can help you as well to adapt an approach to the asanas that will meet you where you are now. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’d like to knoq what those of use who are relatively inflexible are meant to be doing. I’ve been doing Yoga on & off for several months & find it uncomfortable remaining in many positions for any ( 20 seconds) amount of time. Part of it is my daily posture (sitting at a desk), part is my current body structure, and part is also that I’ve not done Yoga for very long.
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Hi Paula, I practice Hatha Yoga trained in the Iyengar style. Your question really depends on what kind of practice or sequence or pose you are doing. For instance Headstand and shoulder stand students build up to at least ten minutes each. Standing poses 5-7 minutes is along time. I hold handstands for two minutes which feels like plenty. Holding a pose longer just to hold it longer can be dangerous or unwise. It is important to pay attention to the breath, does the pose free the breath, or cause you to restrict or shorten your breathing? Obviously twists and backbends will shorten the breath, but should not cause it to be agitated. So hold a pose as long as the breath can move freely. Look to the breath to bring endurance and stillness to the pose. Holding a pose in incorrect alignment or without the proer musuclar action can lead to disturbances of the body’s energy. Disruption of the Prana Vayu and the Apana Vayu, or regions of primary pranic movement in the torso. Holding poses long with incoreect alignment and musuclar action can disturb the breath and in turn do harm to your hormonal system of nervous system, even though the short term feeling may be exhilarating. The body goes through physiological changes approximately every threeminutes, so to let poses move from the musculko skeletal action to a deeper organic or pranic (energetic) level, holding a pose longer is important. A student should wait until the body is trained to hold the poses and not push it. A restorative practice, geared toward stimulating immune activity and quieting the nervous system would include supported pose held for along time. holding a supported Halasana, or plow position for twenty minutes is a wonderfully transformative experience. Partcicularly if the breathing and concentration (dharana) bring you to a state where you do not feel time passing. This is when the meditation (dhyana) occurs. I have been taught that you cannot choose to meditate, but rather create a state or action where you are receptive to receive the state should it occur. The more practice the more the state occurs. This state can be acessed n all poses, some more readily than others. A fascinating question and a fascinating journey. Take Care I’d like to hear more of your thoughts and experiences. Karl www.YogaNexus.com
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To force yourself to hold a pose longer than your body is ready is a recipe for trouble. And often the effects do not show till a day or two later, as discussed below. Also, different poses, or the same pose done differently need to be attempted differently. For example, the Iyengar style has developed approaches that usually allow someone to push at limits safely. Other styles, such as viniyoga, that emphasise developing the back, require a gradual approach over time to safely expand ones limits. Be leary of general rules, try and get the help of a teacher, and listen to your body, staying under your limits. J : – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TO hold a posture for a long time, YOU JUST HALF TO FORCE YOUR SELF & have a STRONG WILL POWER. BUT don’t be to ambitious. start out slow 2 to 5 min every day untill you can do 10 minutes. That is the secret. A few weeks ago, after a long hiatus, I started doing Yoga again. The Cobra position felt so good that I held it a few minutes. From then until a few days ago I had terrible lower back pain.
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pontificated: Ken, How do you get into the cobra pose? Are you starting with a pulling of the sacrum forward, and keeping your butt and upper leg muscles contracted? What about a recovery posture immediately afterwards just as long (baby or rabbit – sorry I don’t know the actual indian names).
I think I lifted myself up too far below the neck. I followed it with the baby pose.
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I want to remind myself & others of the unique qualities of each yoga practice, of each asana, in every moment. Reciepes are great if we are baking a cake. For yoga to be, it just is. I am enjoying the thread, I don’t mean this as a criticism, just a comment.
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I have showed your words to several students and teachers and all agree it is sad what you have been taught. Clearly many people are passing on knowledge incorrectly or with their own ego in the way. Fortunately I have not met any people who approach yoga the way you do. Sure Yoga takes will, but forcing yourself in a pose to reach samadhi is sad and a misunderstanding. best of luck in finding a good teacher. I only pray no to many people have been injured as you have by these distorted teachings. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Let me ask you personally , Have you ever reached SAMADHI by doing ASANAS? What about arising KUNDALINI in a pose? As far as I know from my Guru and from my experiences, the best HATHA YOGIS & SAHDUS reach Samadhi in poses in about 1 hour to two depending on the pose & concentration. In SIRSHASANA if held correctly with the right concentration will put you in SAMADHI in 1 hour. Please do your research before calling me confused. SINCERELY S DOBLES
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Ken, How do you get into the cobra pose? Are you starting with a pulling of the sacrum forward, and keeping your butt and upper leg muscles contracted? What about a recovery posture immediately afterwards just as long (baby or rabbit – sorry I don’t know the actual indian names). I must admit I’ve felt lower back pain from doing cobra pose though – but no pain if I’ve warmed up with some forward and backward bends first. …Rodney
: TO hold a posture for a long time, YOU JUST HALF TO FORCE YOUR SELF & have a : STRONG WILL POWER. BUT don’t be to ambitious. start out slow 2 to 5 min every : day untill you can do 10 minutes. That is the secret. : A few weeks ago, after a long hiatus, I started doing Yoga again. The : Cobra position felt so good that I held it a few minutes. From then : until a few days ago I had terrible lower back pain.
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TO hold a posture for a long time, YOU JUST HALF TO FORCE YOUR SELF & have a STRONG WILL POWER. BUT don’t be to ambitious. start out slow 2 to 5 min every day untill you can do 10 minutes. That is the secret.
A few weeks ago, after a long hiatus, I started doing Yoga again. The Cobra position felt so good that I held it a few minutes. From then until a few days ago I had terrible lower back pain.
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Let me ask you personally , Have you ever reached SAMADHI by doing ASANAS? What about arising KUNDALINI in a pose? As far as I know from my Guru and from my experiences, the best HATHA YOGIS & SAHDUS reach Samadhi in poses in about 1 hour to two depending on the pose & concentration. In SIRSHASANA if held correctly with the right concentration will put you in SAMADHI in 1 hour. Please do your research before calling me confused. SINCERELY S DOBLES
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Hi Paula, I practice Hatha Yoga trained in the Iyengar style. Your question really depends on what kind of practice or sequence or pose you are doing. For instance Headstand and shoulder stand students build up to at least ten minutes each. Standing poses 5-7 minutes is along time. I hold handstands for two minutes which feels like plenty. Holding a pose longer just to hold it longer can be dangerous or unwise. It is important to pay attention to the breath, does the pose free the breath, or cause you to restrict or shorten your breathing? Obviously twists and backbends will shorten the breath, but should not cause it to be agitated. So hold a pose as long as the breath can move freely. Look to the breath to bring endurance and stillness to the pose. Holding a pose in incorrect alignment or without the proer musuclar action can lead to disturbances of the body’s energy. Disruption of the Prana Vayu and the Apana Vayu, or regions of primary pranic movement in the torso. Holding poses long with incoreect alignment and musuclar action can disturb the breath and in turn do harm to your hormonal system of nervous system, even though the short term feeling may be exhilarating. The body goes through physiological changes approximately every threeminutes, so to let poses move from the musculko skeletal action to a deeper organic or pranic (energetic) level, holding a pose longer is important. A student should wait until the body is trained to hold the poses and not push it. A restorative practice, geared toward stimulating immune activity and quieting the nervous system would include supported pose held for along time. holding a supported Halasana, or plow position for twenty minutes is a wonderfully transformative experience. Partcicularly if the breathing and concentration (dharana) bring you to a state where you do not feel time passing. This is when the meditation (dhyana) occurs. I have been taught that you cannot choose to meditate, but rather create a state or action where you are receptive to receive the state should it occur. The more practice the more the state occurs. This state can be acessed n all poses, some more readily than others. A fascinating question and a fascinating journey. Take Care I’d like to hear more of your thoughts and experiences. Karl http://www.YogaNexus.com
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Stu, Beginnings are always insightful. Watch yourself like an observer. See yourself as flexible – as flexible as you are, right now, in this moment. And in time, as you relax, breath through it, receive proper guidance and go within yourself to find the patience to persist, you will grow. Namaste, Paula
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Hello My name Is Santiago Dobles. I’m responding your question. ( Has anyone held a posture for say, 2-5 minutes. Would you like to share what went on for you. Were there emotional, physical, mental or spiritual releases of some kind. I recently have experienced some very profound emotional releases around my heart chakra from holding some postures like bridge and cobra) I have held most of the Asanas that I know for over 10 minutes. Usually I only hold them for 5 to 10 minutes. The great thing about asanas is that you can chooses the ones you need most according to what mood & feeling you want to get. For instance BHUJANGA ASANA ( or Cobra pose helps you open ANAHATA CHACKRA. I have noticed that most of the esoteric effects don’t appear untill 5 minutes after you have held the pose. All the poses will help you to reach SAMADHI. Any pose held for over 3 hours and held with the correct concentration will put you in SAMADHI. The key is to be patient. I have been at this for almost two years & a half and usually my will power will only let me hold a pose for 20 to 30 minutes. I know I could do more maybe even an hour but My ego is still my handicaping me. Unfortunately MAYA tends to make me Lazy. But I can testify that just 5 minutes of one pose will help you and bring great health to your physical, mental & spiritual TEMPLE. MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL Sincerely Santiago Dobles
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you to reach SAMADHI. Any pose held for over 3 hours and held with the
WOW….and I was happy with 2-3 mins….although I must be honest…I never felt the effects you are describing….how long does it take to practice…a posture….even to 10 mins…
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I have never in over 12 years of yoga read or heard from the most senior teachers anything as disconnected and confused as these statements by Dobles. I hope you dfind a good teacher Santiago. Best wishes in your quest for the4 30 minute Samadhi. —— – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello My name Is Santiago Dobles. I’m responding your question. ( Has anyone held a posture for say, 2-5 minutes. Would you like to share what went on for you. Were there emotional, physical, mental or spiritual releases of some kind. I recently have experienced some very profound emotional releases around my heart chakra from holding some postures like bridge and cobra) I have held most of the Asanas that I know for over 10 minutes. Usually I only hold them for 5 to 10 minutes. The great thing about asanas is that you can chooses the ones you need most according to what mood & feeling you want to get. For instance BHUJANGA ASANA ( or Cobra pose helps you open ANAHATA CHACKRA. I have noticed that most of the esoteric effects don’t appear untill 5 minutes after you have held the pose. All the poses will help you to reach SAMADHI. Any pose held for over 3 hours and held with the correct concentration will put you in SAMADHI. The key is to be patient. I have been at this for almost two years & a half and usually my will power will only let me hold a pose for 20 to 30 minutes. I know I could do more maybe even an hour but My ego is still my handicaping me. Unfortunately MAYA tends to make me Lazy. But I can testify that just 5 minutes of one pose will help you and bring great health to your physical, mental & spiritual TEMPLE. MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL Sincerely Santiago Dobles
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I experienced a Phoenix Rising Session recently and it was profound. Symbols. Emotional release. Surrender. Peace. Bliss. The facilitator up at Kripalu was wonderful – compassionate, bold, warm, skilled. The openings that have occured during my last 10 days in training at Kripalu have taught me so much about how I haven’t been slowing down, taking the time to nurture ‘ me’, resting, sleeping. It’s been 4 weeks of pneumonia and I’ve had the time to really look at that – to see just what led up to the physical manifestation of this illness. The lesson has been before me many times before but I choose to avoid looking at it. This time, it came back to me a thousand fold, and there was no way not to see it – I was knocked out – spiritually, that is! So, thanks for your response. I appreciate it. Namaste, Paula
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Paula, You’re in a very precious spiritual phase. Cherish it. Thank you for sharing it with us. Shanti. Om Tat Sat.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I experienced a Phoenix Rising Session recently and it was profound. Symbols. Emotional release. Surrender. Peace. Bliss. The facilitator up at Kripalu was wonderful – compassionate, bold, warm, skilled. The openings that have occured during my last 10 days in training at Kripalu have taught me so much about how I haven’t been slowing down, taking the time to nurture ‘ me’, resting, sleeping. It’s been 4 weeks of pneumonia and I’ve had the time to really look at that – to see just what led up to the physical manifestation of this illness. The lesson has been before me many times before but I choose to avoid looking at it. This time, it came back to me a thousand fold, and there was no way not to see it – I was knocked out – spiritually, that is! So, thanks for your response. I appreciate it. Namaste, Paula
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