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Greetings, ASD!  It’s a cool, wet Monday morning in these parts, and the weather office promises worse for the day to come.  During my walk this morning, it was a gentle rain, what the Irish call a "soft day". The colours of the flowerbeds were screaming "look at me — look here first!" — the pinks, reds and violet were particularly wild.  Have you ever noticed that not only the colours are more intense when wet, but sounds seem more concentrated, and the "squissssh" of cars driving by makes its own special counterpoint.  To those who know snow:  isn’t it odd that rain and snow give completely opposite effects: snow muffles the city sounds,adding only that piercing shriek to footsteps in frigid temperatures.  The colours disappear, as everything turns white. Sorry about the OT, but that’s the mood of the day for you.  It was an average week for water, WOE and exercise.  Hey, I got in the usual 5×45 minute walk with spurts of jogging, one yoga session, watched a power yoga tape and said "no thank you, not now" (imagine Sun Salutations for 50 minutes).  Thought about weights for a nanosecond. Oh, I forgot a three mile walk with DH after supper on Friday, but it was just a fairly fast walk, nothing aerobic.  So no great shakes, but the minimum got done. The numbers in the .sig will now be the week’s average — blame jd’s logic for that.  Since I’m at a point where trends matter more than daily results, it seems strange to post one day’s weight as the Number for the week.  So it’s an average of 142.8 for the week — down 0.7 from last week’s. A great week to us all, and I’m looking forward to read more and more weekly reports — it’s wonderful to have them back again! Cheers, Kay 232/143/<140 (lowcarb since 98/12/26) D2K Everest: 5470/11298 feet, Base Camp to Summit

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The numbers in the .sig will now be the week’s average — blame jd’s logic for that.  Since I’m at a point where trends matter more than daily results, it seems strange to post one day’s weight as the Number for the week.  So it’s an average of 142.8 for the week — down 0.7 from last week’s. A great week to us all, and I’m looking forward to read more and more weekly reports — it’s wonderful to have them back again! Cheers, Kay 232/143/<140 (lowcarb since 98/12/26) D2K Everest: 5470/11298 feet, Base Camp to Summit

Congratulations on the downward trend !!!  I agree with jd.  I probably need to do an average on mine too since I see it jump up and down about a pound each day. I always love your descriptions of your walks in the rain.  I agree..everything looks and smells so fresh right after a shower. Beverly 148 (177 orig) /141.5/135  Lifetime Weight Watcher member Destination 2000 – 5K run in Oct 6000 – 1680 exercise minutes 5K stats – 45 total (20 run/25 walk)

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What a wonderful post!  Thank you for sharing the thoughts of the rain and the beautiful flowers! I finally planted a garden for myself this year, a butterfuly and hummingbird colletion of wild flowers.  It is full of various colors and lengths.  It is a bright start to ea. morning as I walk past the flowers to my car. One thing that motivates me to take my walks around the block is to check out the gardens of my neighbors.  They have no idea how their flower beds brighten my day too! Chrissy 190/185/130

Greetings, ASD!  It’s a cool, wet Monday morning in these parts, and the weather office promises worse for the day to come.  During my walk this morning, it was a gentle rain, what the Irish call a "soft day". The colours of the flowerbeds were screaming "look at me — look here first!" — the pinks, reds and violet were particularly wild.  Have you ever noticed that not only the colours are more intense when wet, but sounds seem more concentrated, and the "squissssh" of cars driving by makes its own special counterpoint.  To those who know snow:  isn’t it odd that rain and snow give completely opposite effects: snow muffles the city sounds,adding only that piercing shriek to footsteps in frigid temperatures.  The colours disappear, as everything turns white. Sorry about the OT, but that’s the mood of the day for you.  It was an average week for water, WOE and exercise.  Hey, I got in the usual 5×45 minute walk with spurts of jogging, one yoga session, watched a power yoga tape and said "no thank you, not now" (imagine Sun Salutations for 50 minutes).  Thought about weights for a nanosecond. Oh, I forgot a three mile walk with DH after supper on Friday, but it was just a fairly fast walk, nothing aerobic.  So no great shakes, but the minimum got done. The numbers in the .sig will now be the week’s average — blame jd’s logic for that.  Since I’m at a point where trends matter more than daily results, it seems strange to post one day’s weight as the Number for the week.  So it’s an average of 142.8 for the week — down 0.7 from last week’s. A great week to us all, and I’m looking forward to read more and more weekly reports — it’s wonderful to have them back again! Cheers, Kay 232/143/<140 (lowcarb since 98/12/26) D2K Everest: 5470/11298 feet, Base Camp to Summit

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Congratulations on the downward trend !!!  I agree with jd.  I probably need to do an average on mine too since I see it jump up and down about a pound each day.

Thanks Beverly!  My weight doesn’t vary as much as yours because I weigh first thing in the morning, but my bodyfat % does.  I know it’s a hydration thing with the Tanita, but I can’t be bothered figuring out the best time to measure it (2 hours after supper, or something), so I take the early morning measurement. The averageing takes a little getting used to, but in the long run, I think it’s a good preparation for a lifetime of maintenance. Cheers, Kay 232/143/<140 (lowcarb since 98/12/26) D2K Everest: 5470/11298 feet, Base Camp to Summit

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A successful week, by my reckoning!  After the amount that you have lost (and maintained the loss of), additional losses are awesome accomplishments!  You are one of the really big success stories around here!  Good work. -Trillian 204/155/145

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I so know what you mean about the rain.  Having lived in the San Francisco Bay area for the past five years, I really miss the rain, and how beautiful it makes everything look. Congrats on completing a good week! — Kello 160/154/130

Greetings, ASD!  It’s a cool, wet Monday morning in these parts, and the weather office promises worse for the day to come.  During my walk this morning, it was a gentle rain, what the Irish call a "soft day". The colours of the flowerbeds were screaming "look at me — look here first!" — the pinks, reds and violet were particularly wild.  Have you ever noticed that not only the colours are more intense when wet, but sounds seem more concentrated, and the "squissssh" of cars driving by makes its own special counterpoint.  To those who know snow:  isn’t it odd that rain and snow give completely opposite effects: snow muffles the city sounds,adding only that piercing shriek to footsteps in frigid temperatures.  The colours disappear, as everything turns white. Sorry about the OT, but that’s the mood of the day for you.  It was an average week for water, WOE and exercise.  Hey, I got in the usual 5×45 minute walk with spurts of jogging, one yoga session, watched a power yoga tape and said "no thank you, not now" (imagine Sun Salutations for 50 minutes).  Thought about weights for a nanosecond. Oh, I forgot a three mile walk with DH after supper on Friday, but it was just a fairly fast walk, nothing aerobic.  So no great shakes, but the minimum got done. The numbers in the .sig will now be the week’s average — blame jd’s logic for that.  Since I’m at a point where trends matter more than daily results, it seems strange to post one day’s weight as the Number for the week.  So it’s an average of 142.8 for the week — down 0.7 from last week’s. A great week to us all, and I’m looking forward to read more and more weekly reports — it’s wonderful to have them back again! Cheers, Kay 232/143/<140 (lowcarb since 98/12/26) D2K Everest: 5470/11298 feet, Base Camp to Summit

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Thanks for the update, Kay! It’s a rainy morning here today, so I was thinking of you as I walked to the subway!

JD, you were my inspiration for the week, and I’ve just come in from a three mile walk with DH.  It’s turned out to be an ideal summer evening with a candy box sunset over my right shoulder as I type this. Cheers, Kay 232/143/<140 (lowcarb since 98/12/26) D2K Everest: 5470/11298 feet, Base Camp to Summit

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The numbers in the .sig will now be the week’s average — blame jd’s logic for that.  Since I’m at a point where trends matter more than daily results, it seems strange to post one day’s weight as the Number for the week.  So it’s an average of 142.8 for the week — down 0.7 from last week’s. A great week to us all, and I’m looking forward to read more and more weekly reports — it’s wonderful to have them back again!

Thanks for the update, Kay! It’s a rainy morning here today, so I was thinking of you as I walked to the subway! — –jd …http://www.angelfire.com/journal/jdbwwedding/journal/journal.html…

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A successful week, by my reckoning!  After the amount that you have lost (and maintained the loss of), additional losses are awesome accomplishments!  You are one of the really big success stories around here!  Good work. -Trillian 204/155/145

Awwww <blush, thanks Trillian!  Those numbers of yours aren’t too shabby either! Cheers, Kay 232/143/<140 (lowcarb since 98/12/26) D2K Everest: 5470/11298 feet, Base Camp to Summit

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One thing that motivates me to take my walks around the block is to check out the gardens of my neighbors.  They have no idea how their flower beds brighten my day too! Chrissy 190/185/130

Yes, that’s true, isn’t it.  This morning, I walked around the neighbourhood rather than in the park because there’s a threat of thunderstorms.  One lawn had the loveliest spread, and the gardener had thoughtfully left little tags to identify the flowers.  This slowed my momentum, but the pleasure of learning something new was worth it.  In these parts, a lush garden is a treat because summer comes on a Wednesday in the average year.  We’re still looking forward to it. Have a good week, Chrissy! Cheers, Kay 232/143/<140 (lowcarb since 98/12/26) D2K Everest: 5470/11298 feet, Base Camp to Summit

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I so know what you mean about the rain.  Having lived in the San Francisco Bay area for the past five years, I really miss the rain, and how beautiful it makes everything look. Congrats on completing a good week!

Thanks, Kello! Cheers, Kay 232/143/<140 (lowcarb since 98/12/26) D2K Everest: 5470/11298 feet, Base Camp to Summit

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Just a quick note here.  I agree their is 4 streams of yoga as noted below: Jnaua Yoga or the yoga of the intellect.  The why and hows of our relationship to God. Raja Yoga the 8 limbs as described by Pantajali Bhakti Yoga as noted Karma yoga

There are different opinions about the different forms of Yoga. That is ok, naturally one is of the opinion that the particular form of yoga one is practicing is the number 1. Careful study of Patanjali leads to the conclusion that all other ‘forms’ of yoga are actually being explained there. I believe there is only one form of yoga hwever. It does not really matter how we call it or what ‘form’ you practice… The different yoga’s as mentioned by you (and me are mere different flavours of that one Yoga. OM Shanti

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The progressive, classic form of Yoga, rooted in Hindu spiritual disciplines is Raja Yoga, which basically includes all other forms of Yoga; like Hatha Yoga, the yoga of Asanas, and Karma Yoga, the yoga of Action, Doing, ofteh translated as ‘work’, just to name the important ones of this system, in order. This identical pattern is found in the classic Raja Yoga (sometimes refered to as Asthanga Yoga, the 8-limbed path) as described by Patanjali: Yama, the moral Principles Niyama, the moral Ideals Asana, the Positions Pranayama, the classic way of controlling the flow of Prana Pratyahara, the classic way of directing attention inwards Dharana, the classic practice of Concentration Dhyana, the practice of Meditation Samadhi, the state of Contemplation This will eventually lead to Enlightenment, that is, Selfrealisation, the realizing that the Truth is beyond anything we have at our disposal while living in Human form. This makes it virtually impossible to explain… For who will truly understand? According to the Siva Samhita, there are 4 kinds of sadhaka’s or spiritual seekers. For Each one the suitable form of yoga is given: Mantra yoga, repetition of Words of Power, and Bhakti Yoga, the yoga of Devotion is suitable for just anybody, (mrdu) Laya yoga is for those possessing more willpower, (madhyama) Hatha yoga is for those who are even more steady in their sadhana, (adhimatra) And the very best (adhimatratama) are fit for any form of Yoga; Raja Yoga.

Just a quick note here.  I agree their is 4 streams of yoga as noted below: Jnaua Yoga or the yoga of the intellect.  The why and hows of our relationship to God. Raja Yoga the 8 limbs as described by Pantajali Bhakti Yoga as noted Karma yoga – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hindus also recognize this same classic pattern of spiritual growth, Expressed with different words: Chariya = Ethics Kriya = Cleansing through action Yogam = Connecting with the Source Jnanam = Inner Knowledge OM Shanti

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The progressive, classic form of Yoga, rooted in Hindu spiritual disciplines is Raja Yoga, which basically includes all other forms of Yoga; like Hatha Yoga, the yoga of Asanas, and Karma Yoga, the yoga of Action, Doing, ofteh translated as ‘work’, just to name the important ones of this system, in order. This identical pattern is found in the classic Raja Yoga (sometimes refered to as Asthanga Yoga, the 8-limbed path) as described by Patanjali: Yama, the moral Principles Niyama, the moral Ideals Asana, the Positions Pranayama, the classic way of controlling the flow of Prana Pratyahara, the classic way of directing attention inwards Dharana, the classic practice of Concentration Dhyana, the practice of Meditation Samadhi, the state of Contemplation This will eventually lead to Enlightenment, that is, Selfrealisation, the realizing that the Truth is beyond anything we have at our disposal while living in Human form. This makes it virtually impossible to explain… For who will truly understand? According to the Siva Samhita, there are 4 kinds of sadhaka’s or spiritual seekers. For Each one the suitable form of yoga is given: Mantra yoga, repetition of Words of Power, and Bhakti Yoga, the yoga of Devotion is suitable for just anybody, (mrdu) Laya yoga is for those possessing more willpower, (madhyama) Hatha yoga is for those who are even more steady in their sadhana, (adhimatra) And the very best (adhimatratama) are fit for any form of Yoga; Raja Yoga. Hindus also recognize this same classic pattern of spiritual growth, Expressed with different words: Chariya = Ethics Kriya = Cleansing through action Yogam = Connecting with the Source Jnanam = Inner Knowledge OM Shanti

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Hi, Mindy, you’ve made some very good points!! Thank you……Yes, indeed, the time does go by, so we should all make the most of it….. — Missy….. from Alberta,Canada 225/218/215 ( mini-goal #1) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Cheryl, My favourite way to "get going" and exercise: exercise with a friend. I joined WW with a friend of mine and we often work out together. Sometime we go to the gym, sometimes we go for a hike, sometimes we go biking. A few months ago I finally was able to convince my BF to come to the gym with me too, so now there are 2 people that I enjoy exercising with. The buddy system works great for those days when you just have a hard time getting motivated. Now that I’m a regular at my gym, I’ve even made some friends there, so there are some other people I look forward to seeing when I exercise. It makes going to the gym a lot more of a social activity, which I like. The other thing I would recommend is just to hang in there and keep at it. If you can get yourself to exercise on a regular basis for 3 months, studies have shown that exercising becomes a habit and it’s much easier to keep doing it. I know 3 months sounds like a long time, but it’s only 90 days, and you’ll reap the benefits for many years to come! (and like Ann Landers says: 3 months will go by whether you do it or not!) (tangent: actually, that’s a big part of why I started WW. I was unhappy with my weight and health, and had thought of doing something about it for a while. I was discouraged because I always thought "but it’ll take so long to see results". One day I realized that a month, 6 months, a year or 2- it doesn’t matter. Time will go by whether I decide to change my WOL or not. So I decided to make the changes! And I haven’t looked back since.) And now, I love exercising… What a great feeling when all those endorphins go rushing to my brain! And hey, I’ve got muscles! Mindy * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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You can order ESCAPE YOUR SHAPE from TV or Internet.  There’s product info on it at www.escapeyourshape.com and I think you can buy it at www.e4l.com.  It’s now called ESCAPE YOUR SHAPE 2000. — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Cheryl Can you only buy the escape your shape videos from an infomercial or can you buy them around town? Thanks in advance! Regi I like them.  Hourglass here.  30-35 minutes workout and I have noticed a change.  People have said that my hips are slimming down.  Of course, I am losing  the inches evenly top and bottom.   But people don’t usually go around saying your bust is shrinking. — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200 How do you like those escape your shape tapes? I saw that infomercial and thought it made good sense..  Hourglass here …  :) — ~~Joanie~~ 245/220/215 minigoal#6  glasses of H2O today  6/12 started ww nov 22/99  pounds left to lose  75  pounds divorced- 25 Destination 2000 – goal = 12,000 minutes exercise 2905/12,000 Goal -Vegas 1398 miles 337.7/1398  miles * 8.6 min exercise = 1 mile Hi, Cheryl — My name is Cheryl and there are a few other Cheryls out in this group as well.  Welcome to group.  You’ll get great ideas from the group about jump starting that exercise plan.  You want to tone to get rid of that jiggle – even if you are at goal weight.  That’s perfectly understandable.  As you progress in your EXERCISE goals, I want to give you a heads up… Light weight training (low weight/high reps) is great for toning.  You will get smaller as the jiggle goes away and the arms, legs, and waist become more defined.  But you may go up a little on the scale.  It shouldn’t scare you though… it’s a muscle gain – not fat gain. I hate working out too – especially for longer periods at a time. However, I love my 20-30 minute Yoga tapes… it’s exercise and relaxing at the same time.  I actually learned how to breathe using these tapes! I don’t get winded on stairs anymore. I also have the ESCAPE YOUR SHAPE workout tapes.  These are workouts designed for your body shape (it’s like interval training, but almost no weights at all). Good luck with your exercising…and Congrats on reaching your goal weight!! — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200 Hi everyone, My name is Cheryl and I’ve been going to WW sense Sept. 99. I’ve lost 33lbs so far. I’m at my goal weight but I think I still want to lose 5 more pounds. I feel good but I still feel unfit if that makes any sense.LOL I think I need to exercise more. Maybe I’m not tone enough. Everybody says I should stop were I’m at but they don’t see me with my clothes off. Believe it or not I lost this weight without regular exercise. Just here and there. I love to exercise one I get going but it’s the getting going with that I have trouble with. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I really need the help. I also want to tell everyone to never give up. You will get there some day. And it will be worth it in the long run. Everyone has bad days or weeks for that matter just don’t let it get into months. And don’t forget 1lb a week is great! Thanks for listening to me and I’d like to hear from you. If you have any question for me I’ll try to answer them. Have a great week.

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Hi Cheryl Can you only buy the escape your shape videos from an infomercial or can you buy them around town? Thanks in advance! Regi

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I like them.  Hourglass here.  30-35 minutes workout and I have noticed a change.  People have said that my hips are slimming down.  Of course, I am losing  the inches evenly top and bottom.   But people don’t usually go around saying your bust is shrinking. — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200 How do you like those escape your shape tapes? I saw that infomercial and thought it made good sense..  Hourglass here …  :) — ~~Joanie~~ 245/220/215 minigoal#6  glasses of H2O today  6/12 started ww nov 22/99  pounds left to lose  75  pounds divorced- 25 Destination 2000 – goal = 12,000 minutes exercise 2905/12,000 Goal -Vegas 1398 miles 337.7/1398  miles * 8.6 min exercise = 1 mile Hi, Cheryl — My name is Cheryl and there are a few other Cheryls out in this group as well.  Welcome to group.  You’ll get great ideas from the group about jump starting that exercise plan.  You want to tone to get rid of that jiggle – even if you are at goal weight.  That’s perfectly understandable.  As you progress in your EXERCISE goals, I want to give you a heads up… Light weight training (low weight/high reps) is great for toning.  You will get smaller as the jiggle goes away and the arms, legs, and waist become more defined.  But you may go up a little on the scale.  It shouldn’t scare you though… it’s a muscle gain – not fat gain. I hate working out too – especially for longer periods at a time. However, I love my 20-30 minute Yoga tapes… it’s exercise and relaxing at the same time.  I actually learned how to breathe using these tapes! I don’t get winded on stairs anymore. I also have the ESCAPE YOUR SHAPE workout tapes.  These are workouts designed for your body shape (it’s like interval training, but almost no weights at all). Good luck with your exercising…and Congrats on reaching your goal weight!! — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200 Hi everyone, My name is Cheryl and I’ve been going to WW sense Sept. 99. I’ve lost 33lbs so far. I’m at my goal weight but I think I still want to lose 5 more pounds. I feel good but I still feel unfit if that makes any sense.LOL I think I need to exercise more. Maybe I’m not tone enough. Everybody says I should stop were I’m at but they don’t see me with my clothes off. Believe it or not I lost this weight without regular exercise. Just here and there. I love to exercise one I get going but it’s the getting going with that I have trouble with. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I really need the help. I also want to tell everyone to never give up. You will get there some day. And it will be worth it in the long run. Everyone has bad days or weeks for that matter just don’t let it get into months. And don’t forget 1lb a week is great! Thanks for listening to me and I’d like to hear from you. If you have any question for me I’ll try to answer them. Have a great week.

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Hi Cheryl, My favourite way to "get going" and exercise: exercise with a friend. I joined WW with a friend of mine and we often work out together. Sometime we go to the gym, sometimes we go for a hike, sometimes we go biking. A few months ago I finally was able to convince my BF to come to the gym with me too, so now there are 2 people that I enjoy exercising with. The buddy system works great for those days when you just have a hard time getting motivated. Now that I’m a regular at my gym, I’ve even made some friends there, so there are some other people I look forward to seeing when I exercise. It makes going to the gym a lot more of a social activity, which I like. The other thing I would recommend is just to hang in there and keep at it. If you can get yourself to exercise on a regular basis for 3 months, studies have shown that exercising becomes a habit and it’s much easier to keep doing it. I know 3 months sounds like a long time, but it’s only 90 days, and you’ll reap the benefits for many years to come! (and like Ann Landers says: 3 months will go by whether you do it or not!) (tangent: actually, that’s a big part of why I started WW. I was unhappy with my weight and health, and had thought of doing something about it for a while. I was discouraged because I always thought "but it’ll take so long to see results". One day I realized that a month, 6 months, a year or 2- it doesn’t matter. Time will go by whether I decide to change my WOL or not. So I decided to make the changes! And I haven’t looked back since.) And now, I love exercising… What a great feeling when all those endorphins go rushing to my brain! And hey, I’ve got muscles! Mindy * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Nice post Mindy ) And a good point..  the time is going to go by anyways, so why not invest your efforts and see where the road takes you… what do you have to lose anyways? Pounds?? I can live with that!!! The other thing to consider is… the time goes by anyways, so if you don’t get up and get moving and exercising… in 3 months, 6 months time… you will still be where you were back then… — ~~Joanie~~ 245/220/215 minigoal#6  glasses of H2O today  6/12 started ww nov 22/99  pounds left to lose  75  pounds divorced- 25 Destination 2000 – goal = 12,000 minutes exercise 2905/12,000 Goal -Vegas 1398 miles 337.7/1398  miles * 8.6 min exercise = 1 mile

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Cheryl, My favourite way to "get going" and exercise: exercise with a friend. I joined WW with a friend of mine and we often work out together. Sometime we go to the gym, sometimes we go for a hike, sometimes we go biking. A few months ago I finally was able to convince my BF to come to the gym with me too, so now there are 2 people that I enjoy exercising with. The buddy system works great for those days when you just have a hard time getting motivated. Now that I’m a regular at my gym, I’ve even made some friends there, so there are some other people I look forward to seeing when I exercise. It makes going to the gym a lot more of a social activity, which I like. The other thing I would recommend is just to hang in there and keep at it. If you can get yourself to exercise on a regular basis for 3 months, studies have shown that exercising becomes a habit and it’s much easier to keep doing it. I know 3 months sounds like a long time, but it’s only 90 days, and you’ll reap the benefits for many years to come! (and like Ann Landers says: 3 months will go by whether you do it or not!) (tangent: actually, that’s a big part of why I started WW. I was unhappy with my weight and health, and had thought of doing something about it for a while. I was discouraged because I always thought "but it’ll take so long to see results". One day I realized that a month, 6 months, a year or 2- it doesn’t matter. Time will go by whether I decide to change my WOL or not. So I decided to make the changes! And I haven’t looked back since.) And now, I love exercising… What a great feeling when all those endorphins go rushing to my brain! And hey, I’ve got muscles! Mindy * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Joanie or Cheryl, what does "hourglass here" mean?  Both of you said the exact same thing, and I was just wondering what it meant. CindyW 217.75/194.25/192.75 (mini-goal #1) Every day I’m making ground. – Neil Finn ASDWW FAQ: http://members.soltec.net/~cindyw/asdwwfaq.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I like them.  Hourglass here.  30-35 minutes workout and I have noticed a change.  People have said that my hips are slimming down.  Of course, I am losing  the inches evenly top and bottom.   But people don’t usually go around saying your bust is shrinking. — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200 How do you like those escape your shape tapes? I saw that infomercial and thought it made good sense..  Hourglass here …  :) — ~~Joanie~~ 245/220/215 minigoal#6  glasses of H2O today  6/12 started ww nov 22/99  pounds left to lose  75  pounds divorced- 25 Destination 2000 – goal = 12,000 minutes exercise 2905/12,000 Goal -Vegas 1398 miles 337.7/1398  miles * 8.6 min exercise = 1 mile Hi, Cheryl — My name is Cheryl and there are a few other Cheryls out in this group as well.  Welcome to group.  You’ll get great ideas from the group about jump starting that exercise plan.  You want to tone to get rid of that jiggle – even if you are at goal weight.  That’s perfectly understandable.  As you progress in your EXERCISE goals, I want to give you a heads up… Light weight training (low weight/high reps) is great for toning.  You will get smaller as the jiggle goes away and the arms, legs, and waist become more defined.  But you may go up a little on the scale.  It shouldn’t scare you though… it’s a muscle gain – not fat gain. I hate working out too – especially for longer periods at a time. However, I love my 20-30 minute Yoga tapes… it’s exercise and relaxing at the same time.  I actually learned how to breathe using these tapes! I don’t get winded on stairs anymore. I also have the ESCAPE YOUR SHAPE workout tapes.  These are workouts designed for your body shape (it’s like interval training, but almost no weights at all). Good luck with your exercising…and Congrats on reaching your goal weight!! — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200 Hi everyone, My name is Cheryl and I’ve been going to WW sense Sept. 99. I’ve lost 33lbs so far. I’m at my goal weight but I think I still want to lose 5 more pounds. I feel good but I still feel unfit if that makes any sense.LOL I think I need to exercise more. Maybe I’m not tone enough. Everybody says I should stop were I’m at but they don’t see me with my clothes off. Believe it or not I lost this weight without regular exercise. Just here and there. I love to exercise one I get going but it’s the getting going with that I have trouble with. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I really need the help. I also want to tell everyone to never give up. You will get there some day. And it will be worth it in the long run. Everyone has bad days or weeks for that matter just don’t let it get into months. And don’t forget 1lb a week is great! Thanks for listening to me and I’d like to hear from you. If you have any question for me I’ll try to answer them. Have a great week.

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Hi, Cindy — ‘Escape Your Shape’ exercise videos give you easy-to-follow routines designed for your body type. Body types are hourglass (top/bottom heavy); spoon (bottom heavy); cone (top/waist heavy); and ruler (lose weight evenly everywhere) – 4 separate workouts – one for each body type.  Each workout session is about 35 minutes in length.  There are two tapes: Hourglass/Cone and Ruler/Spoon.  Since I consider myself and Hourglass, I do that workout. The videos feature 3 levels of workouts for your shape – beginner, intermediate, and advanced.  It includes warm-up, stretching, activity, cool-down.  You don’t do any one exercise for more than a few minutes. It’s like interval training w/o the weights.  Each workout includes upper & lower body routines PLUS aerobic activity like jumping jacks. Edward Jackowski, Jr. created the program and he promotes fitness and endurance.  He wrote a book called "Hold It! You’re exercising wrong" which is a very easy read.  I read that before I bought the tapes. — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Joanie or Cheryl, what does "hourglass here" mean?  Both of you said the exact same thing, and I was just wondering what it meant. CindyW 217.75/194.25/192.75 (mini-goal #1) Every day I’m making ground. – Neil Finn ASDWW FAQ: http://members.soltec.net/~cindyw/asdwwfaq.html

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OK.  Thanks for filling me in!  I guess I’d be an hourglass too. CindyW 217.75/194.25/192.75 (mini-goal #1) Every day I’m making ground. – Neil Finn ASDWW FAQ: http://members.soltec.net/~cindyw/asdwwfaq.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, Cindy — ‘Escape Your Shape’ exercise videos give you easy-to-follow routines designed for your body type. Body types are hourglass (top/bottom heavy); spoon (bottom heavy); cone (top/waist heavy); and ruler (lose weight evenly everywhere) – 4 separate workouts – one for each body type.  Each workout session is about 35 minutes in length.  There are two tapes: Hourglass/Cone and Ruler/Spoon.  Since I consider myself and Hourglass, I do that workout. The videos feature 3 levels of workouts for your shape – beginner, intermediate, and advanced.  It includes warm-up, stretching, activity, cool-down.  You don’t do any one exercise for more than a few minutes. It’s like interval training w/o the weights.  Each workout includes upper & lower body routines PLUS aerobic activity like jumping jacks. Edward Jackowski, Jr. created the program and he promotes fitness and endurance.  He wrote a book called "Hold It! You’re exercising wrong" which is a very easy read.  I read that before I bought the tapes. — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200 Joanie or Cheryl, what does "hourglass here" mean?  Both of you said the exact same thing, and I was just wondering what it meant. CindyW 217.75/194.25/192.75 (mini-goal #1) Every day I’m making ground. – Neil Finn ASDWW FAQ: http://members.soltec.net/~cindyw/asdwwfaq.html

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ROFL… I asked DH if he thought mine were… he said yes..  and I said, are you ok with that? cuz I am not stopping, and he said "i’ll love you no matter your weight or shape".  Isn’t he a sweetie? He always has too… never said a bad thing, or anything.. — ~~Joanie~~ 245/220/215 minigoal#6  glasses of H2O today  6/12 started ww nov 22/99  pounds left to lose  75  pounds divorced- 25 Destination 2000 – goal = 12,000 minutes exercise 2905/12,000 Goal -Vegas 1398 miles 337.7/1398  miles * 8.6 min exercise = 1 mile

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I like them.  Hourglass here.  30-35 minutes workout and I have noticed a change.  People have said that my hips are slimming down.  Of course, I am losing  the inches evenly top and bottom.   But people don’t usually go around saying your bust is shrinking. — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200 How do you like those escape your shape tapes? I saw that infomercial and thought it made good sense..  Hourglass here …  :) — ~~Joanie~~ 245/220/215 minigoal#6  glasses of H2O today  6/12 started ww nov 22/99  pounds left to lose  75  pounds divorced- 25 Destination 2000 – goal = 12,000 minutes exercise 2905/12,000 Goal -Vegas 1398 miles 337.7/1398  miles * 8.6 min exercise = 1 mile Hi, Cheryl — My name is Cheryl and there are a few other Cheryls out in this group as well.  Welcome to group.  You’ll get great ideas from the group about jump starting that exercise plan.  You want to tone to get rid of that jiggle – even if you are at goal weight.  That’s perfectly understandable.  As you progress in your EXERCISE goals, I want to give you a heads up… Light weight training (low weight/high reps) is great for toning.  You will get smaller as the jiggle goes away and the arms, legs, and waist become more defined.  But you may go up a little on the scale.  It shouldn’t scare you though… it’s a muscle gain – not fat gain. I hate working out too – especially for longer periods at a time. However, I love my 20-30 minute Yoga tapes… it’s exercise and relaxing at the same time.  I actually learned how to breathe using these tapes! I don’t get winded on stairs anymore. I also have the ESCAPE YOUR SHAPE workout tapes.  These are workouts designed for your body shape (it’s like interval training, but almost no weights at all). Good luck with your exercising…and Congrats on reaching your goal weight!! — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200 Hi everyone, My name is Cheryl and I’ve been going to WW sense Sept. 99. I’ve lost 33lbs so far. I’m at my goal weight but I think I still want to lose 5 more pounds. I feel good but I still feel unfit if that makes any sense.LOL I think I need to exercise more. Maybe I’m not tone enough. Everybody says I should stop were I’m at but they don’t see me with my clothes off. Believe it or not I lost this weight without regular exercise. Just here and there. I love to exercise one I get going but it’s the getting going with that I have trouble with. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I really need the help. I also want to tell everyone to never give up. You will get there some day. And it will be worth it in the long run. Everyone has bad days or weeks for that matter just don’t let it get into months. And don’t forget 1lb a week is great! Thanks for listening to me and I’d like to hear from you. If you have any question for me I’ll try to answer them. Have a great week.

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Hi everyone, My name is Cheryl and I’ve been going to WW sense Sept. 99. I’ve lost 33lbs so far. I’m at my goal weight but I think I still want to lose 5 more pounds. I feel good but I still feel unfit if that makes any sense.LOL I think I need to exercise more. Maybe I’m not tone enough. Everybody says I should stop were I’m at but they don’t see me with my clothes off.  Believe it or not I lost this weight without regular exercise. Just here and there. I love to exercise one I get going but it’s the getting going with that I have trouble with. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I really need the help. I also want to tell everyone to never give up. You will get there some day. And it will be worth it in the long run. Everyone has bad days or weeks for that matter just don’t let it get into months. And don’t forget 1lb a week is great! Thanks for listening to me and I’d like to hear from you. If you have any question for me I’ll try to answer them. Have a great week.

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Hi Cheryl  Well, as far as exercise goes… I don’t look at it as something awful.. I think it is all in your mind, where you put the exercise … personally, I look at exercise (my trip to the fitness center)  as my reward for going into work. I think of it as a gift I give myself.. And I deserve it.  I am addicted to sweat. Just get out there and do it, and think of it as a gift to yourself! ) Pretty soon, it will become habit… just start out easy, say 10- 15 minutes… and do that every day for a week… and then next week, add a couple of minutes or so , and every week, add a couple of more minutes..  it will become something that is just a part of your life.. take it slow, and make it short and sweet, and work yourself up..   When I started on the elliptical trainer, I could do 15 minutes… that was 4 months ago… now I can do it full tilt for 60 minutes, and a 20 min cool down on it…  it is a matter of easing into it, and then trying to better your times every week. Good luck to you! Also, vary your exercises, so you don’t let your body get used to one thing.. challenge different muscles. Gym, weights, swimming and walking are what I do now.. Will look for a new exercise to add next time I hit a plateau. — ~~Joanie~~ 245/220/215 minigoal#6  glasses of H2O today  6/12 started ww nov 22/99  pounds left to lose  75  pounds divorced- 25 Destination 2000 – goal = 12,000 minutes exercise 2905/12,000 Goal -Vegas 1398 miles 337.7/1398  miles * 8.6 min exercise = 1 mile

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, My name is Cheryl and I’ve been going to WW sense Sept. 99. I’ve lost 33lbs so far. I’m at my goal weight but I think I still want to lose 5 more pounds. I feel good but I still feel unfit if that makes any sense.LOL I think I need to exercise more. Maybe I’m not tone enough. Everybody says I should stop were I’m at but they don’t see me with my clothes off. Believe it or not I lost this weight without regular exercise. Just here and there. I love to exercise one I get going but it’s the getting going with that I have trouble with. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I really need the help. I also want to tell everyone to never give up. You will get there some day. And it will be worth it in the long run. Everyone has bad days or weeks for that matter just don’t let it get into months. And don’t forget 1lb a week is great! Thanks for listening to me and I’d like to hear from you. If you have any question for me I’ll try to answer them. Have a great week.

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Start slow and easy!! Don’t jump in too deep you’ll only end up stiff and aching the next day, and then you’ll loose interest and stop!! ) Well that’s what I found, Start off with more walking, then maybe a bit of swimming then start going to the odd class or two but build up slow! ) To help you get going with the walking buy a pedometer, It will really push you to do just that bit more!!!  :o) — (196)190/168.5/168 minigoal#1  (0.5 away!!!) Started WW (again) 22/7/99 22.5 pounds left to go D2K: 346miles/170 done/176 to go Remove 10 to E-Mail

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Welcome Cheryl…You can do this…when I first started -I used my glider inside…at first it was all I could do to keep going for 5 minutes…That seemed so long…Then I felt like I could get outside and walk….Now I walk 3 miles every morning….The thing that I like,is  if by chance I’ve messed up that day…the exercise may off set it…and if I didn’t have a bad day-then the exercise helps me toward tomorrow….Hugs for a super day. Alice

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, My name is Cheryl and I’ve been going to WW sense Sept. 99. I’ve lost 33lbs so far. I’m at my goal weight but I think I still want to lose 5 more pounds. I feel good but I still feel unfit if that makes any sense.LOL I think I need to exercise more. Maybe I’m not tone enough. Everybody says I should stop were I’m at but they don’t see me with my clothes off. Believe it or not I lost this weight without regular exercise. Just here and there. I love to exercise one I get going but it’s the getting going with that I have trouble with. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I really need the help. I also want to tell everyone to never give up. You will get there some day. And it will be worth it in the long run. Everyone has bad days or weeks for that matter just don’t let it get into months. And don’t forget 1lb a week is great! Thanks for listening to me and I’d like to hear from you. If you have any question for me I’ll try to answer them. Have a great week.

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Hi, Cheryl — My name is Cheryl and there are a few other Cheryls out in this group as well.  Welcome to group.  You’ll get great ideas from the group about jump starting that exercise plan.  You want to tone to get rid of that jiggle – even if you are at goal weight.  That’s perfectly understandable.  As you progress in your EXERCISE goals, I want to give you a heads up… Light weight training (low weight/high reps) is great for toning.  You will get smaller as the jiggle goes away and the arms, legs, and waist become more defined.  But you may go up a little on the scale.  It shouldn’t scare you though… it’s a muscle gain – not fat gain. I hate working out too – especially for longer periods at a time. However, I love my 20-30 minute Yoga tapes… it’s exercise and relaxing at the same time.  I actually learned how to breathe using these tapes! I don’t get winded on stairs anymore. I also have the ESCAPE YOUR SHAPE workout tapes.  These are workouts designed for your body shape (it’s like interval training, but almost no weights at all). Good luck with your exercising…and Congrats on reaching your goal weight!! — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, My name is Cheryl and I’ve been going to WW sense Sept. 99. I’ve lost 33lbs so far. I’m at my goal weight but I think I still want to lose 5 more pounds. I feel good but I still feel unfit if that makes any sense.LOL I think I need to exercise more. Maybe I’m not tone enough. Everybody says I should stop were I’m at but they don’t see me with my clothes off. Believe it or not I lost this weight without regular exercise. Just here and there. I love to exercise one I get going but it’s the getting going with that I have trouble with. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I really need the help. I also want to tell everyone to never give up. You will get there some day. And it will be worth it in the long run. Everyone has bad days or weeks for that matter just don’t let it get into months. And don’t forget 1lb a week is great! Thanks for listening to me and I’d like to hear from you. If you have any question for me I’ll try to answer them. Have a great week.

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Hey Cheryl, What yoga tapes are you using? I’m on the look out for a good beginner tape, and the breathing part sounds really interesting… — KarenD in Boston

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The LivingArts Yoga beginner series tapes… www.livingarts.com is a good website period.  I have ordered mats, blocks, tapes from this site.  I now by the LivingArts tapes at SAM’s club because you can get a three pack for 16.99.  Now, I just buy them at SAM’s club. I have the beginner’s guide to yoga which is excellent; and, I agree that Patricia Walden is great.  So, is Rodney Yee.  There a both very good.  I do not like Suzanne Deason, though – she does ‘Yoga for Stress-relief’ and she moves to fast for me.  I get stressed doing the stress-relief! Anyway, I would highly recommend the LivingYoga tapes that are sold through LivingArts. Favorites – order of preference: Yoga for Beginners – copied certain parts and created an AM and PM tape. Yoga for Back Care for Beginners — love it! Yoga for Abs for Beginners – had surgery Oct.’96 – it’s helping to strengthen my abdominals Yoga for Relaxation – I fell asleep in front of my fireplace doing this one! Yoga for Flexibility – I haven’t tried this one yet, but I will. — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey Cheryl, What yoga tapes are you using? I’m on the look out for a good beginner tape, and the breathing part sounds really interesting… — KarenD in Boston However, I love my 20-30 minute Yoga tapes… it’s exercise and relaxing at the same time.  I actually learned how to breathe using these tapes! I don’t get winded on stairs anymore. I also have the ESCAPE YOUR SHAPE workout tapes.  These are workouts designed for your body shape (it’s like interval training, but almost no weights at all).

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How do you like those escape your shape tapes? I saw that infomercial and thought it made good sense..  Hourglass here …  :) — ~~Joanie~~ 245/220/215 minigoal#6  glasses of H2O today  6/12 started ww nov 22/99  pounds left to lose  75  pounds divorced- 25 Destination 2000 – goal = 12,000 minutes exercise 2905/12,000 Goal -Vegas 1398 miles 337.7/1398  miles * 8.6 min exercise = 1 mile

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, Cheryl — My name is Cheryl and there are a few other Cheryls out in this group as well.  Welcome to group.  You’ll get great ideas from the group about jump starting that exercise plan.  You want to tone to get rid of that jiggle – even if you are at goal weight.  That’s perfectly understandable.  As you progress in your EXERCISE goals, I want to give you a heads up… Light weight training (low weight/high reps) is great for toning.  You will get smaller as the jiggle goes away and the arms, legs, and waist become more defined.  But you may go up a little on the scale.  It shouldn’t scare you though… it’s a muscle gain – not fat gain. I hate working out too – especially for longer periods at a time. However, I love my 20-30 minute Yoga tapes… it’s exercise and relaxing at the same time.  I actually learned how to breathe using these tapes! I don’t get winded on stairs anymore. I also have the ESCAPE YOUR SHAPE workout tapes.  These are workouts designed for your body shape (it’s like interval training, but almost no weights at all). Good luck with your exercising…and Congrats on reaching your goal weight!! — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200 Hi everyone, My name is Cheryl and I’ve been going to WW sense Sept. 99. I’ve lost 33lbs so far. I’m at my goal weight but I think I still want to lose 5 more pounds. I feel good but I still feel unfit if that makes any sense.LOL I think I need to exercise more. Maybe I’m not tone enough. Everybody says I should stop were I’m at but they don’t see me with my clothes off. Believe it or not I lost this weight without regular exercise. Just here and there. I love to exercise one I get going but it’s the getting going with that I have trouble with. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I really need the help. I also want to tell everyone to never give up. You will get there some day. And it will be worth it in the long run. Everyone has bad days or weeks for that matter just don’t let it get into months. And don’t forget 1lb a week is great! Thanks for listening to me and I’d like to hear from you. If you have any question for me I’ll try to answer them. Have a great week.

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I like them.  Hourglass here.  30-35 minutes workout and I have noticed a change.  People have said that my hips are slimming down.  Of course, I am losing  the inches evenly top and bottom.   But people don’t usually go around saying your bust is shrinking. — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How do you like those escape your shape tapes? I saw that infomercial and thought it made good sense..  Hourglass here …  :) — ~~Joanie~~ 245/220/215 minigoal#6  glasses of H2O today  6/12 started ww nov 22/99  pounds left to lose  75  pounds divorced- 25 Destination 2000 – goal = 12,000 minutes exercise 2905/12,000 Goal -Vegas 1398 miles 337.7/1398  miles * 8.6 min exercise = 1 mile Hi, Cheryl — My name is Cheryl and there are a few other Cheryls out in this group as well.  Welcome to group.  You’ll get great ideas from the group about jump starting that exercise plan.  You want to tone to get rid of that jiggle – even if you are at goal weight.  That’s perfectly understandable.  As you progress in your EXERCISE goals, I want to give you a heads up… Light weight training (low weight/high reps) is great for toning.  You will get smaller as the jiggle goes away and the arms, legs, and waist become more defined.  But you may go up a little on the scale.  It shouldn’t scare you though… it’s a muscle gain – not fat gain. I hate working out too – especially for longer periods at a time. However, I love my 20-30 minute Yoga tapes… it’s exercise and relaxing at the same time.  I actually learned how to breathe using these tapes! I don’t get winded on stairs anymore. I also have the ESCAPE YOUR SHAPE workout tapes.  These are workouts designed for your body shape (it’s like interval training, but almost no weights at all). Good luck with your exercising…and Congrats on reaching your goal weight!! — Life is what you make it!!! CherylDCTX Dallas, Texas USA 309/285/200 Hi everyone, My name is Cheryl and I’ve been going to WW sense Sept. 99. I’ve lost 33lbs so far. I’m at my goal weight but I think I still want to lose 5 more pounds. I feel good but I still feel unfit if that makes any sense.LOL I think I need to exercise more. Maybe I’m not tone enough. Everybody says I should stop were I’m at but they don’t see me with my clothes off. Believe it or not I lost this weight without regular exercise. Just here and there. I love to exercise one I get going but it’s the getting going with that I have trouble with. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I really need the help. I also want to tell everyone to never give up. You will get there some day. And it will be worth it in the long run. Everyone has bad days or weeks for that matter just don’t let it get into months. And don’t forget 1lb a week is great! Thanks for listening to me and I’d like to hear from you. If you have any question for me I’ll try to answer them. Have a great week.

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Everybody can practice Yoga. You do not need to be young or have an agile body to begin with. Raja Yoga or Asthanga Yoga is an ancient traditional and very systematical Way of Practicing Yoga. Traditionally all Saints and Rishi’s teach us that by practicing Yoga you can obtain Happiness. One of the many ways to reach this is the traditional way of  Yoga. This Yoga includes all present ways of Yoga.  In the beginning of your Sadhana the importance of Hatha yoga is stressed. Later on Raja Yoga becomes more important, and finally Karma Yoga comes into the picture. There are eight clearly distinguished, sequentially practiced steps in the Ancient Yogatraining, necessary to raise your consciousness slowly but steadily towards the highest Spiritual levels: 1. The Yama’s or Moral principles: firstly you will become aware of all existing habits regarding Violence, Lies, Theft, Chastity and Greed. By principally not accepting these any more you create Space. You will get time to think about it and take a clear stand, thus creating a more tranquil atmosphere for yourself. 2. The Niyama’s are the Moral Ideals. After the Yama’s you can lay a firm foundation for your Life with the practice of Purity, Contentedness, Study of Self, and Surrender to the Highest. 3. Asana’s or physical Positions: practicing this next step will bring you physical Health, Strength and an agile body. 4. Next is the practice of the Pranayama’s or learning to control the flow of Energy. Due to the fact that the previous three steps have cleansed and purified your energy channels or nadi’s, you now can increase your Vital Energy and Strength through controlling them better and better. 5. Pratyahara or non-attachment: By practicing this you will become more sensitive motorically and sensory, so it becomes vital that you are able to withdraw your energy or practice Pratyahara, to maintain your emotional and mental balance. 6. Concentration or Dharana: By concentration of your attention upon one single chosen object you will increase your mental power. 7. Meditation or Dhyana: Only when there are no longer distractions in your concentration you have reached meditation or singlepointed attention of your awareness. 8. The highest step, contemplation or Samadhi finally will bring you True Knowledge, Happiness and Joy. Simultaneously awakening of paranormal powers or Siddhi’s occurs due to the tremendous force of Contemplation, the technique of control over Superconsciousness. In the past thousands of years the effectiveness of this eight-step method has been proven and proven again. Admirers have given it the title "Royal", Raja Yoga, as described by the Sage Patanjali. OM Shanti

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—%<— Yoga becomes more important, and finally *Karma Yoga* comes into the

picture. —%<— Homa: Karma Yoga (interesting many "forget" this)

—%<— It is not a conincidence he has conviently overlooked Karma Yoga.

READING is an art too it seems… Need I say more? OM Shanti

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Thank God there is more than one form of yoga! I am in poor health and bhakti yoga is all I have!  Haribol!  Chanting the names of God is my HARE KRSNA HARE KRSNA KRSNA KRSNA HARE HARE HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE http://community.webtv.net/Vrindadevi/HAREKRISHNA http://community.webtv.net/Vrindadevi/MOSTIMPORTANTLESSON http://community.webtv.net/Vrindadevi/FINDINGGOD

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<< Raja Yoga or Asthanga Yoga is an ancient traditional and very systematical Way of Practicing Yoga. Traditionally all Saints and Rishi’s teach us that by practicing Yoga you can obtain Happiness. One of the many ways to reach this is the traditional way of  Yoga. This Yoga includes all present ways of Yoga.  In the beginning of your Sadhana the importance of Hatha yoga is stressed. Later on Raja Yoga becomes more important, and finally Karma Yoga comes into the picture.

Homa:  Not quite accurate my friend. The tradtional yogic path of Hinduism is: Karma Yoga (interesting many "forget" this) Bhakti Yoga Raja Yoga (including Hatha) Jnana Yoga

pblau: I could call your comment also ‘not quite accurate’… It really is all the same thing, the difference (if there is any) is in the initial approach… It is a personal opinion and a personal experiece, that proved right the words of our beloved teacher. Actually Homa (as those in the know realize) had it right. What is this beloved teacher stuff? This poster obviously being misled is bent on misleading others. It is not a conincidence he has conviently overlooked Karma Yoga.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – << Raja Yoga or Asthanga Yoga is an ancient traditional and very systematical Way of Practicing Yoga. Traditionally all Saints and Rishi’s teach us that by practicing Yoga you can obtain Happiness. One of the many ways to reach this is the traditional way of  Yoga. This Yoga includes all present ways of Yoga.  In the beginning of your Sadhana the importance of Hatha yoga is stressed. Later on Raja Yoga becomes more important, and finally Karma Yoga comes into the picture. Not quite accurate my friend. The tradtional yogic path of Hinduism is: Karma Yoga (interesting many "forget" this) Bhakti Yoga Raja Yoga (including Hatha) Jnana Yoga

I could call your comment also ‘not quite accurate’… It really is all the same thing, the difference (if there is any) is in the initial approach… It is a personal opinion and a personal experiece, that proved right the words of our beloved teacher. Seems your interested in the Hindu/yoga disciplines, but you need to study (and experience) a bit more before you pass on mis-information.

So, I would not call it mis-information my friend! Seems you need some more experiencing to so too! OM Shanti

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<< Raja Yoga or Asthanga Yoga is an ancient traditional and very systematical Way of Practicing Yoga. Traditionally all Saints and Rishi’s teach us that by practicing Yoga you can obtain Happiness. One of the many ways to reach this is the traditional way of  Yoga. This Yoga includes all present ways of Yoga.  In the beginning of your Sadhana the importance of Hatha yoga is stressed. Later on Raja Yoga becomes more important, and finally Karma Yoga comes into the picture. Not quite accurate my friend. The tradtional yogic path of Hinduism is: Karma Yoga (interesting many "forget" this) Bhakti Yoga Raja Yoga (including Hatha) Jnana Yoga Seems your interested in the Hindu/yoga disciplines, but you need to study (and experience) a bit more before you pass on mis-information.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Everybody can practice Yoga. You do not need to be young or have an agile body to begin with. Raja Yoga or Asthanga Yoga is an ancient traditional and very systematical Way of Practicing Yoga. Traditionally all Saints and Rishi’s teach us that by practicing Yoga you can obtain Happiness. One of the many ways to reach this is the traditional way of  Yoga. This Yoga includes all present ways of Yoga.  In the beginning of your Sadhana the importance of Hatha yoga is stressed. Later on Raja Yoga becomes more important, and finally Karma Yoga comes into the picture. Don’t forget Bhakti. Bhakti is really the easiest yoga of them all for many people. I am more attuned to Jnani, due to my personality makeup. But Bhakti is there even when Jnani doesn’t seem to be working. You don’t even need a body to do Bhakti.

I did not forget! Also read Patanjali. Ishvara Pranidhana has many of the Bhakti elements. There is only one Yoga, all different names or forms of Yoga are mere ‘tastes’ of the same, or, different viewpoints. Different entrances to the science of Yoga. Bhakti is one of them, as is Jnana, Karma, Kriya, Asthanga or Raja yoga, and many others. Each picks a few elements and stresses them a little more, that is all! So, everyone can choose that way of Yoga that suits him/her best. You are correct! OM Shanti and a Great 2000!

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Everybody can practice Yoga. You do not need to be young or have an agile body to begin with. Raja Yoga or Asthanga Yoga is an ancient traditional and very systematical Way of Practicing Yoga. Traditionally all Saints and Rishi’s teach us that by practicing Yoga you can obtain Happiness. One of the many ways to reach this is the traditional way of  Yoga. This Yoga includes all present ways of Yoga.  In the beginning of your Sadhana the importance of Hatha yoga is stressed. Later on Raja Yoga becomes more important, and finally Karma Yoga comes into the picture.

Don’t forget Bhakti. Bhakti is really the easiest yoga of them all for many people. I am more attuned to Jnani, due to my personality makeup. But Bhakti is there even when Jnani doesn’t seem to be working. You don’t even need a body to do Bhakti.

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Hello, my name is Robert and I live in NYC. I would say to start a would go to the Inyenger institute on west 24th st  phone number is 212-691-9642. It is a good place to develope good habits and show you the correct ways to do the poses. Stay there for about 3 months then ask me again. Please E-mail again if

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Thanks for the info, jmorss249.  (I’m the original poster of this request). I’ll  follow up on your suggestions, as well as check out YOGAZONE on 56th and Third (geographically desirable location!). Thanks again.

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Try Crunch–there’s a branch on 59th and 2nd in Manhattan. Also it’s not nearby, but you might want to check out OM on W. 14th St.–very nice teachers, diverse styles and NO attitude. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi – part of a New Year’s resolution – promised to get myself into a yoga class this year (beginner level!) – can anyone recommend a good facility in midtown or the astoria/long island city area??? Thanks SO much!

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Having just moved to Sunnyside/NYC myself, The most the best bang for my yoga buck remains the West Side Y (63rd betw CPW/Bway).  They have many different styles, plus an advanced class in Iyengar on Saturday.  A quick ride over the bridge by bike.   One of the best Iyengar teachers in NYC if not the country is Kevin Gardiner, who’s right next door to LIC at 61st and 2nd.  Call the Iyengar Institute in Manhattan for phone + info. Yellow pages indicate only one yoga facility in Western Queens.  If I go there I’ll give you a review.  Meantime I’ll take Manhattan. PS Debbie — I’ve been to JivaMukti and the snob factor isn’t that bad.  But the places I mentioned should satisfy your prole needs.  

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Debbie,         I haven’t lived in NYC for years so I don’t have up to date information. However there are many places to look for yoga classes. My first suggestion is call Kripalu 1 800 967-3577 and ask for a referral in your area. Also look in the phonebook well established studios are often listed. Check the YMCA, Adult Ed, and College Class lists. Go to the vegan restaurant, or health food store and read their bulletin boards. Finally contact Yoga Journal<A HREF="http://www.yogajournal.com/toc/tocframe.html"toc</A the teachers directory will have someone near you. peace sandra

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Hi – part of a New Year’s resolution – promised to get myself into a yoga class this year (beginner level!) – can anyone recommend a good facility in midtown or the astoria/long island city area??? Thanks SO much!

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I always have the same question and I hate the typical answer: Jivamukti (sic?)  The thought of stretching my limbs next to a bunch of snobs who read about the studio in Allure does not have me enthusiastic about joining. Debbie.

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I’m looking for some resources (websites, books, videos, anything!) or recommended poses for obese people who just can’t do a lot of the poses out there. I’m about 24 and about 100lbs overweight, but still surprisingly flexible (I can not only touch my toes from standing, I can place my palms flat on the floor). I did yoga for a little while before I got obese due to Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome, and I would really like to get back into it. The yoga book I do have is almost 30 years old, and I love it – I’ve never found one as good. If I could find something similar to it for obese people, I would be very happy. It’s called "The Light of Yoga Society Beginner’s Manual" bye Alice Christensen & David Rankin. It’s a very detailed and easy to follow book with a plastic spine, so it can sit open on the floor very easily. Any help is very appreciated!

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Check out the video Yoga for Round Bodies. you can find it through the Yoga Journal website, in the book & tape source section. peace, sandra <A HREF="http://www.yogajournal.com/"Yoga Journal</A

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You don’t say where you are located, but there are many resources out there! I would suggest contacting Lanita Varshell (www.agentleway.com) who was featured in Yoga Journal a few months ago on this very issue. That article included adaptations of several poses.  Lanita has classes in SoCal as well as an audio tape that would be useful. She also has good contacts throughout the US and runs workshops for teachers and others who are interested in learning to adapt asanas to the special needs of the obese. I know there is a 2 day weekend training session coming up soon. Also, Naomi Offner put out a Gentle Yoga video a few years ago that is appropriate for larger sizes (www.gentleyoga.com). This video was my introduction to yoga. At 275+ pounds I found it very doable. There is an older video set by 2 Kripalu teachers called "Yoga for Round Bodies" that you may find useful.  I personally found it slow (& a bit boring), but YMMV. Finally, I just heard of a new video (I haven’t seen it yet) called "Yoga For Any Size".  The blurb about it says: If you want to practice yoga but need a modified approach because of experience or size, this video makes yoga accessible to you. Instructor Maggie Moraldo adapts basic yoga postures that all individuals can apply with effective results. Many of the postures are easy to attain while others will challenge your ability. This 30-minute workout includes a brief introduction about yoga and continues with postures that are adapted for the overweight or average individual. The video was professionally produced in a studio environment with soothing music that can enhance your workout. The verbal instruction is so precise that beginners should be able to have results immediately. I believe it is available directly from Ms Moraldo. She can be can be There is an out of print book called Gentle Yoga, by Lorna Bell, that is very useful in adaptation of postures.  You can sometimes find it on www.alibris.com I have significant experience in adapting yoga for my own large body and started a teacher training course when I weighed 333 lbs.  Let me know if you have any other questions or if you want to correspond! Namaste’ –Laura M. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking for some resources (websites, books, videos, anything!) or recommended poses for obese people who just can’t do a lot of the poses out there. I’m about 24 and about 100lbs overweight, but still surprisingly flexible (I can not only touch my toes from standing, I can place my palms flat on the floor). I did yoga for a little while before I got obese due to Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome, and I would really like to get back into it. The yoga book I do have is almost 30 years old, and I love it – I’ve never found one as good. If I could find something similar to it for obese people, I would be very happy. It’s called "The Light of Yoga Society Beginner’s Manual" bye Alice Christensen & David Rankin. It’s a very detailed and easy to follow book with a plastic spine, so it can sit open on the floor very easily. Any help is very appreciated!

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Dear yoga friends,     I have a question for y’all.  I have a 66-year old friend who is obese, diabetic, alcoholic, and a smoker.  He went to a yoga class a few years ago, and, naturally, as the course wasn’t really designed for a fellow such as himself, he stopped going after a few classes.  He lives in NYC.  Does anyone know of a good one-on-one yoga therapist, who has worked with un-fit, heavy people?  Or group classes designed for heavy people?  Or workshops? Etc.  Thanks muchly and namaste, richard.

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Check out Yoga for Round Bodies- this video tape series was made by two Kripalu trained teachers. I like the way the approach the subject.         peace, sandra

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Richard, Integral Yoga Institute in NYC has "extra gentle" and "new beginnners" classes that migh be appropriate for your friend. They also have a referral service for private sessions. namaste

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the krupalu center in lenox mass. offers a video called "Yoga for Round Bodies". I did not see the original post but hope this is helpful.

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Ed,         This is more common than you think. In one yoga studio I went to no one liked using the mats after ashtanga classes because they were always soaking wet. If most of your classmates are female they will tend to sweat less than you.         And you’ve probably heard it’s healthy, eliminates toxins, etc. You want to stay drier anyway. Slow your breath and movements down a bit as you practice. when you feel the heat building and your pores opening, that’s your signal to pay special attention to the ujayaii breath. You can also learn shitali, the curled tongue breathing.         This gets to the issue of balancing the bhramana/warming and languna/cooling actions in the body/mind/spirit. Beyond our scope here. Try cooling with your breath.         peace, sandra

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I don’t mind some sweat, but I think I sweat more than most people.

Well I empathize — I often sweat so much I need to turn my mat over, and then that side gets so saturated I start slipping on that. But in a way it means I’m making progress — doing the work, cleaning the system — and failing a way to reduce it, I just enjoy it.  At the risk of saying the obvious, make sure you drink enough water.  All that sweat gotta come from somewhere.

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Ed,    This is more common than you think. In one yoga studio I went to no one liked using the mats after ashtanga classes because they were always soaking wet. If most of your classmates are female they will tend to sweat less than you.

Yes, most are female.    And you’ve probably heard it’s healthy, eliminates toxins, etc. You want to stay drier anyway. Slow your breath and movements down a bit as you practice. when you feel the heat building and your pores opening, that’s your signal to pay special attention to the ujayaii breath. You can also learn shitali, the curled tongue breathing.    This gets to the issue of balancing the bhramana/warming and languna/cooling actions in the body/mind/spirit. Beyond our scope here. Try cooling with your breath.    peace, sandra

Thanks for the info.  Actually, I don’t mind sweating in yoga class so much, but I started taking a swing dance class.  This is a fairly up tempo exercise in a non-airconditioned room, hence I find myself soaked while in close contact with the women, making me self-conscious of it. I figured there may be some dietary habits I could change that would have some effect.  Like, maybe I might get inspired to try vegetarianism… Well, I’ll just bring my hanky and sweat it out until it cools off! Thanks, Ed

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Sweating is perfectly normal and healthy if induced by physical activity.  Your body is cooling itself down and doing what it knows to do.   Withdrawal from alcohol can cause excessive sweating, though.  And, to the best of my knowledge, this may be the driving factor behind your sweating.  Other causes can be certain foods or drugs like a  cup of coffee in the morning, being overweight, taking drugs, temp of room, etc.   If laying off the alcohol is the source of the sweating, then that problem will eventually go away.   But, I know how you feel, because I too sweat like it’s raining in the room during my class.  Since I got a bit embarassed by this annoying habit of my body, I took it upon myself to find out why I was sweating so much.  There are plenty of webpages on this subject, believe it or not, so if you’re still concerned then just go to the web and type in "sweating" or "sweat" or whatever floats your boat. Cheers! Rebecca  

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Edward Lewis Wilkinson, Jr. schrieb in Nachricht I tend to sweat more than most people and get soaked by the end of yoga class.  I wondered if anyone knew of any dietary or other reasons for this?  Anything I could do to cut down on the sweating? BTW, I quit drinking alchohol awhile back hoping that would help, but I still sweat a lot. Thanks, Ed

Dear Ed, I have no idea. But maybe Yogi Bhajan or one of his healer can give you a good advice? And tell us when you find yourself the solution! Good luck! Sat Nam – Hari Har Singh Visit the 3HO homepage:  http://yoga.home.pages.de/

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I tend to sweat more than most people and get soaked by the end of yoga class.  I wondered if anyone knew of any dietary or other reasons for this?  Anything I could do to cut down on the sweating?

IMHO I would think that the sweating would be a good thing.   BTW, I quit drinking alchohol awhile back hoping that would help, but I still sweat a lot.

Could still be getting impurities out of your system.  There are all kinds in our diets, etc… Yoga is good for that. Phillip

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Sweating is a form of detoxification.  Perhaps your body needs a little extra cleansing!?  littlebird108 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I tend to sweat more than most people and get soaked by the end of yoga class.  I wondered if anyone knew of any dietary or other reasons for this?  Anything I could do to cut down on the sweating? BTW, I quit drinking alchohol awhile back hoping that would help, but I still sweat a lot. Thanks, Ed

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Sweating is perfectly normal and healthy if induced by physical activity.  Your body is cooling itself down and doing what it knows to do.  

I don’t mind some sweat, but I think I sweat more than most people. Withdrawal from alcohol can cause excessive sweating, though.  And, to the best of my knowledge, this may be the driving factor behind your sweating.  Other causes can be certain foods or drugs like a  cup of coffee in the morning, being overweight, taking drugs, temp of room, etc.   If laying off the alcohol is the source of the sweating, then that problem will eventually go away.  

That was a year and a half ago.  I just mentioned it because in times past, I noticed that if I drank the night before, I’d sweat more the next day. But, I know how you feel, because I too sweat like it’s raining in the room during my class.  Since I got a bit embarassed by this annoying habit of my body, I took it upon myself to find out why I was sweating so much.  There are plenty of webpages on this subject, believe it or not, so if you’re still concerned then just go to the web and type in "sweating" or "sweat" or whatever floats your boat.

I’ll check out the web pages.  Actually, what inspired me to ask was that I started talking an East Coast Swing dance class and I would sweat there, too.  All that close contact with women, while dripping with sweat, got me self conscious. Cheers! Rebecca  

Thanks to all who responded, Ed

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I tend to sweat more than most people and get soaked by the end of yoga class.  I wondered if anyone knew of any dietary or other reasons for this?  Anything I could do to cut down on the sweating? BTW, I quit drinking alchohol awhile back hoping that would help, but I still sweat a lot. Thanks, Ed                      

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I tend to sweat more than most people and get soaked by the end of yoga class.  I wondered if anyone knew of any dietary or other reasons for this?  Anything I could do to cut down on the sweating? BTW, I quit drinking alchohol awhile back hoping that would help, but I still sweat a lot. Thanks, Ed                  

The only solution I’ve come up with is to have a towel or old T-shirt beside me throughout the yoga session. When the sweat starts running off me like I’m under a shower <g, I quickly towel myself off, particularly my head.  Actually I try to keep the sweat off me as much as possible, so as to keep my yoga mat from becoming slippery. Solutions like keeping the room cooler are, imo, not a good idea. The sweating is definitely a form of purification:  the skin is the largest eliminative organ. For some reason, men tend to sweat profusely during yoga; women hardly at all. If someone knows the reason for this please pass it on.

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Try to locate a copy of "The Anxiety Epidemic" by B.J. Sahley, Watercress Press San Antonio, TX ($8.95). It’s more about panic attacks than anxiety really. [...] the Health Plus database on the subject of "GABA" and read up. I, like you, suffered from weekly panic attacks for over five years and was able to help myself (I hate to use the word cure) and put my panic problems behind me. Today my old Xanax bottle is busy gathering dust!

I have seen a few times your postings on GABA but also have seen others on this and `alt.support.anxiety-panic’ newsgroups. One thing said about GABE is that it can’t be assimilated through the digestive system because it is destroyed during digestion. Have you seen a serious study about it (confirming that claim or rejecting it)? Since GABA is a `natural’ (produced by the brain) neuro-transmitter inhhibitor. Does anyone know a mean to stimulate its synthesis in the brain: drug, mind machine, etc… Good Luck,

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Hi I’ve been suffering from anxiety, panic attacks and sometimes depression as well for already three years (since my daughter was born…). I’m in therapy and it helps to understand WHY I’m feeling so bad, but it doesn’t help me feeling phycically better. I’ve tried a lot of conventional medicines (tranquilizers, antidepressants and beta blockers) but the side effects and addictivity are worse than the help they offer. Does any one as real good experience with any kind of alternative therapy/ drugs for my problem. I’m not able to live normally at the moment because of the anxiety. newsgroup, Thanks Cecile

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I would appreciate seeing this info also posted to the newsgroup. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi I’ve been suffering from anxiety, panic attacks and sometimes depression as well for already three years (since my daughter was born…). I’m in therapy and it helps to understand WHY I’m feeling so bad, but it doesn’t help me feeling phycically better. I’ve tried a lot of conventional medicines (tranquilizers, antidepressants and beta blockers) but the side effects and addictivity are worse than the help they offer. Does any one as real good experience with any kind of alternative therapy/ drugs for my problem. I’m not able to live normally at the moment because of the anxiety. newsgroup, Thanks Cecile

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Try to locate a copy of "The Anxiety Epidemic" by B.J. Sahley, Watercress Press San Antonio, TX ($8.95). It’s more about panic attacks than anxiety really. If you are a member of CompuServe, do a magazine/medical study search in the Health Plus database on the subject of "GABA" and read up. I, like you, suffered from weekly panic attacks for over five years and was able to help myself (I hate to use the word cure) and put my panic problems behind me. Today my old Xanax bottle is busy gathering dust! Good Luck,

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I’ve been suffering from anxiety, panic attacks and sometimes depression as well for already three years (since my daughter was born…). I’m in therapy and it helps to understand WHY I’m feeling so bad, but it doesn’t help me feeling phycically better. I’ve tried a lot of conventional medicines (tranquilizers, antidepressants and beta blockers) but the side effects and addictivity are worse than the help they offer. Does any one as real good experience with any kind of alternative therapy/ drugs for my problem. I’m not able to live normally at the moment because of the anxiety. newsgroup, Thanks Cecile

As I am new in this internet Arena I do not know if you have been informed about  a possible remedy One  remedy we are using in the wellbeing centre are related with the Schuesler salts but not in a potentised strenght but as a mineral one of the minerals  we found  very helpful are Potassium phosphate and Magnesium Phosphate There are obviously more factors involved but I can not say which If you are interested I wil try to  transmit  our  evaluation sheet which will give you a breakdown of questions with the related deficiencies. The concept we are working is that  the lack of minerals  and  posible hereditary factors has started off the imbalance of  your body. Also we use the astrological aspects of you date of birth in relation with  Dr. Edward Bach Flower remeries to do this evaluation is very difficult as it take your self   to read trough a large list of  multiple choice questions Martin van leeuwen

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What’s the problem with the shoulderstand, headstand, and Cobra poses? Damien

Well, according to one yoga book that I have, those individuals with high blood pressure should use caution doing inverted poses. — Stephanie Bragg

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| says… | | Yoga, taught by a competent teacher | (who doesn’t lead the reversed poses like shoulderstand or handstand and | doesn’t lead the Cobra and who has training in exercise physiology) also | is good. | | | | | What’s the problem with the shoulderstand, headstand, and Cobra poses? | | Damien Cobra: overextention of the lumbar region (bad low back pain). Keep your hips on the mat. Raise your upper torso only as far as you can lift it without using your arms. Then, use your arms only as support. (When I did it the traditional way, I got chewed out by my trainor.) Shoulderstand/headstand: problems: excess mechanical loading of the cervical members of the spinal column, increased risk of stroke, increased BP in the brain, risk of severe CNS injury if involved in an accident (once during a yoga class at Kripaulu, someone near me did a shoulderstand and was shaking like a tree in a breeze. I got off my mat, securely grabbed the guy’s ankles and rolled him out of that pose. Frankly, I was afraid that he would fall on me. The instructor was nearby, about 10′ away. I yelled at her for negligently permitting a dangerous situation to continue. I gently explained to the man that he needed a spotter if he wanted to try to do that. He was actually grateful for my help.) According to my trainor at SUNY Albany, the most dangerous stretch known to man is the yoga plough. It hyperextends all regions of the spine, increases one’s risk for developing a stroke. Now, to the lurkers out there, I’m *not* bitching out yoga. With a competent instructor, it’s a very good flexability training program.

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says… Yoga, taught by a competent teacher (who doesn’t lead the reversed poses like shoulderstand or handstand and doesn’t lead the Cobra and who has training in exercise physiology) also is good.

What’s the problem with the shoulderstand, headstand, and Cobra poses? Damien

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You sir are a poet. I often have to struggle for words to explain exactly what GABA does. Your comments are "right on", thanks.

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| | Hi | | I’ve been suffering from anxiety, panic attacks and sometimes depression as | well for already three years (since my daughter was born…). I’m in therapy | and it helps to understand WHY I’m feeling so bad, but it doesn’t help | me feeling phycically better. I’ve tried a lot of conventional medicines | (tranquilizers, antidepressants and beta blockers) but the side effects and | addictivity are worse than the help they offer. | Does any one as real good experience with any kind of alternative therapy/ | drugs for my problem. I’m not able to live normally at the moment because of | the anxiety. | | newsgroup, | | Thanks | | Cecile | | | As I am new in this internet Arena I do not know if you have been informed about  a possible | remedy | One  remedy we are using in the wellbeing centre are related with the Schuesler salts but not in a potentised strenght but as a mineral | one of the minerals  we found  very helpful are Potassium phosphate and Magnesium Phosphate | There are obviously more factors involved but I can not say which | If you are interested I wil try to  transmit  our  evaluation sheet which will give you a breakdown of questions | with the related deficiencies. | The concept we are working is that  the lack of minerals  and  posible hereditary | factors has started off the imbalance of  your body. | Also we use the astrological aspects of you date of birth in relation with  Dr. Edward Bach Flower remeries | to do this evaluation is very difficult as it take your self   to read trough a large list of  multiple choice questions | | Martin van leeuwen |   | This is a placebo. There is absolutely no scientific evidence that this works. It’s actually a part of homeopathy. Meditation/visualization/hypnosis/biofeedback do help. IMHO, something like this should *always* be included in a treatment program for someone with panic attacks. My Chinese MD would also strongly recomend Tai Chi. He says that it’s good for everyone. Yoga, taught by a competent teacher (who doesn’t lead the reversed poses like shoulderstand or handstand and doesn’t lead the Cobra and who has training in exercise physiology) also is good. Another thing that seems to help: cognative/behavorial psychotherapy and conditioning. Both are behavorist techniques. A competent behavorist should also teach you stress management techniques as well.

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   Pierre G:    Since GABA is a `natural’ (produced by the brain) neuro-transmitter    inhibitor. Does anyone know a means to stimulate its synthesis in the    brain: drug, mind machine, etc… Well…the benzodiazepines enhance GABA receptor affinity and *binding*, which in turn, increases Cl- influx into the CNS neuron. This hyper- polarizes the cell making it more difficult to ‘fire’ and hence leads to a decrease in neural excitability… and, an expected therapeutic decrease in anxiety, sedative action, and muscle relaxation from pre- synaptic inhibition of spinal cord neurons. Is that what you had in mind?

Well, yes and no. I know the effect of benzo’s such as Xanax (as previously mentioned by Jim). What I was looking for is something that will be less addictive than Xanax, produces less swings in moods, etc… I was told `mind machines’ using micro-currents are able to stimulate the synthesis of some substancess (like endorphin). Maybe, there is a mean to stimulate GABA synthesis. Also, I was wondering if some herbs or special diets could help to produce GABA. JB.

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GABA, like all the amino acids, is readily absorbed in the digestive tract. Take a tablet and you’ll see! For best absorption, it should be taken an hour or so before or after eaing any protein foods so that the GABA (which is an amino acid compound) does not get digested as food along with other amino acids. Taking it on an empty stomach, results in a higher concentration in the bloodstream. I have been using GABA for over a year and have found it a very effective alternative to prescription tranquilizers/sleeping medications when taken orally. And it only costs about $.22 per capsule! A search of Compuserve’s Health database plus will provide over 60 studies and articles supporting my claims. MEDLINE can furnish a similar number of more serious studies. When I mentioned my GABA use to my physician (who is a board certified specialist with a Ph.D. in pharmacology) he said "I guess that would work, now that you mention it!" Good Health,

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    Pierre G:     Since GABA is a `natural’ (produced by the brain) neuro-transmitter     inhibitor. Does anyone know a means to stimulate its synthesis in the     brain: drug, mind machine, etc… Well…the benzodiazepines enhance GABA receptor affinity and *binding*, which in turn, increases Cl- influx into the CNS neuron. This hyper- polarizes the cell making it more difficult to ‘fire’ and hence leads to a decrease in neural excitability… and, an expected therapeutic decrease in anxiety, sedative action, and muscle relaxation from pre- synaptic inhibition of spinal cord neurons. Is that what you had in mind? JB.

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You sir are a poet. I often have to struggle for words to explain exactly what GABA does. Your comments are "right on", thanks.

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| | Hi | | I’ve been suffering from anxiety, panic attacks and sometimes depression as | well for already three years (since my daughter was born…). I’m in therapy | and it helps to understand WHY I’m feeling so bad, but it doesn’t help | me feeling phycically better. I’ve tried a lot of conventional medicines | (tranquilizers, antidepressants and beta blockers) but the side effects and | addictivity are worse than the help they offer. | Does any one as real good experience with any kind of alternative therapy/ | drugs for my problem. I’m not able to live normally at the moment because of | the anxiety. | | newsgroup, | | Thanks | | Cecile | | | As I am new in this internet Arena I do not know if you have been informed about  a possible | remedy | One  remedy we are using in the wellbeing centre are related with the Schuesler salts but not in a potentised strenght but as a mineral | one of the minerals  we found  very helpful are Potassium phosphate and Magnesium Phosphate | There are obviously more factors involved but I can not say which | If you are interested I wil try to  transmit  our  evaluation sheet which will give you a breakdown of questions | with the related deficiencies. | The concept we are working is that  the lack of minerals  and  posible hereditary | factors has started off the imbalance of  your body. | Also we use the astrological aspects of you date of birth in relation with  Dr. Edward Bach Flower remeries | to do this evaluation is very difficult as it take your self   to read trough a large list of  multiple choice questions | | Martin van leeuwen |   | This is a placebo. There is absolutely no scientific evidence that this works. It’s actually a part of homeopathy. Meditation/visualization/hypnosis/biofeedback do help. IMHO, something like this should *always* be included in a treatment program for someone with panic attacks. My Chinese MD would also strongly recomend Tai Chi. He says that it’s good for everyone. Yoga, taught by a competent teacher (who doesn’t lead the reversed poses like shoulderstand or handstand and doesn’t lead the Cobra and who has training in exercise physiology) also is good. Another thing that seems to help: cognative/behavorial psychotherapy and conditioning. Both are behavorist techniques. A competent behavorist should also teach you stress management techniques as well.

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says… Yoga, taught by a competent teacher (who doesn’t lead the reversed poses like shoulderstand or handstand and doesn’t lead the Cobra and who has training in exercise physiology) also is good.

What’s the problem with the shoulderstand, headstand, and Cobra poses? Damien

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| says… | | Yoga, taught by a competent teacher | (who doesn’t lead the reversed poses like shoulderstand or handstand and | doesn’t lead the Cobra and who has training in exercise physiology) also | is good. | | | | | What’s the problem with the shoulderstand, headstand, and Cobra poses? | | Damien Cobra: overextention of the lumbar region (bad low back pain). Keep your hips on the mat. Raise your upper torso only as far as you can lift it without using your arms. Then, use your arms only as support. (When I did it the traditional way, I got chewed out by my trainor.) Shoulderstand/headstand: problems: excess mechanical loading of the cervical members of the spinal column, increased risk of stroke, increased BP in the brain, risk of severe CNS injury if involved in an accident (once during a yoga class at Kripaulu, someone near me did a shoulderstand and was shaking like a tree in a breeze. I got off my mat, securely grabbed the guy’s ankles and rolled him out of that pose. Frankly, I was afraid that he would fall on me. The instructor was nearby, about 10′ away. I yelled at her for negligently permitting a dangerous situation to continue. I gently explained to the man that he needed a spotter if he wanted to try to do that. He was actually grateful for my help.) According to my trainor at SUNY Albany, the most dangerous stretch known to man is the yoga plough. It hyperextends all regions of the spine, increases one’s risk for developing a stroke. Now, to the lurkers out there, I’m *not* bitching out yoga. With a competent instructor, it’s a very good flexability training program.

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What’s the problem with the shoulderstand, headstand, and Cobra poses? Damien

Well, according to one yoga book that I have, those individuals with high blood pressure should use caution doing inverted poses. — Stephanie Bragg

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GABA, like all the amino acids, is readily absorbed in the digestive tract. Take a tablet and you’ll see! For best absorption, it should be taken an hour or so before or after eaing any protein foods so that the GABA (which is an amino acid compound) does not get digested as food along with other amino acids. Taking it on an empty stomach, results in a higher concentration in the bloodstream. I have been using GABA for over a year and have found it a very effective alternative to prescription tranquilizers/sleeping medications when taken orally. And it only costs about $.22 per capsule! A search of Compuserve’s Health database plus will provide over 60 studies and articles supporting my claims. MEDLINE can furnish a similar number of more serious studies. When I mentioned my GABA use to my physician (who is a board certified specialist with a Ph.D. in pharmacology) he said "I guess that would work, now that you mention it!" Good Health,

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    Pierre G:     Since GABA is a `natural’ (produced by the brain) neuro-transmitter     inhibitor. Does anyone know a means to stimulate its synthesis in the     brain: drug, mind machine, etc… Well…the benzodiazepines enhance GABA receptor affinity and *binding*, which in turn, increases Cl- influx into the CNS neuron. This hyper- polarizes the cell making it more difficult to ‘fire’ and hence leads to a decrease in neural excitability… and, an expected therapeutic decrease in anxiety, sedative action, and muscle relaxation from pre- synaptic inhibition of spinal cord neurons. Is that what you had in mind? JB.

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   Pierre G:    Since GABA is a `natural’ (produced by the brain) neuro-transmitter    inhibitor. Does anyone know a means to stimulate its synthesis in the    brain: drug, mind machine, etc… Well…the benzodiazepines enhance GABA receptor affinity and *binding*, which in turn, increases Cl- influx into the CNS neuron. This hyper- polarizes the cell making it more difficult to ‘fire’ and hence leads to a decrease in neural excitability… and, an expected therapeutic decrease in anxiety, sedative action, and muscle relaxation from pre- synaptic inhibition of spinal cord neurons. Is that what you had in mind?

Well, yes and no. I know the effect of benzo’s such as Xanax (as previously mentioned by Jim). What I was looking for is something that will be less addictive than Xanax, produces less swings in moods, etc… I was told `mind machines’ using micro-currents are able to stimulate the synthesis of some substancess (like endorphin). Maybe, there is a mean to stimulate GABA synthesis. Also, I was wondering if some herbs or special diets could help to produce GABA. JB.

– Services Informatiques, Universite de Montreal. C.P. 6128, Succursale centre-ville, Montreal,             Quebec, Canada.   H3C 3J7                      

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Hi I’ve been suffering from anxiety, panic attacks and sometimes depression as well for already three years (since my daughter was born…). I’m in therapy and it helps to understand WHY I’m feeling so bad, but it doesn’t help me feeling phycically better. I’ve tried a lot of conventional medicines (tranquilizers, antidepressants and beta blockers) but the side effects and addictivity are worse than the help they offer. Does any one as real good experience with any kind of alternative therapy/ drugs for my problem. I’m not able to live normally at the moment because of the anxiety. newsgroup, Thanks Cecile

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Try to locate a copy of "The Anxiety Epidemic" by B.J. Sahley, Watercress Press San Antonio, TX ($8.95). It’s more about panic attacks than anxiety really. [...] the Health Plus database on the subject of "GABA" and read up. I, like you, suffered from weekly panic attacks for over five years and was able to help myself (I hate to use the word cure) and put my panic problems behind me. Today my old Xanax bottle is busy gathering dust!

I have seen a few times your postings on GABA but also have seen others on this and `alt.support.anxiety-panic’ newsgroups. One thing said about GABE is that it can’t be assimilated through the digestive system because it is destroyed during digestion. Have you seen a serious study about it (confirming that claim or rejecting it)? Since GABA is a `natural’ (produced by the brain) neuro-transmitter inhhibitor. Does anyone know a mean to stimulate its synthesis in the brain: drug, mind machine, etc… Good Luck,

– Services Informatiques, Universite de Montreal. C.P. 6128, Succursale centre-ville, Montreal,             Quebec, Canada.   H3C 3J7                      

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Try to locate a copy of "The Anxiety Epidemic" by B.J. Sahley, Watercress Press San Antonio, TX ($8.95). It’s more about panic attacks than anxiety really. If you are a member of CompuServe, do a magazine/medical study search in the Health Plus database on the subject of "GABA" and read up. I, like you, suffered from weekly panic attacks for over five years and was able to help myself (I hate to use the word cure) and put my panic problems behind me. Today my old Xanax bottle is busy gathering dust! Good Luck,

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I’ve been suffering from anxiety, panic attacks and sometimes depression as well for already three years (since my daughter was born…). I’m in therapy and it helps to understand WHY I’m feeling so bad, but it doesn’t help me feeling phycically better. I’ve tried a lot of conventional medicines (tranquilizers, antidepressants and beta blockers) but the side effects and addictivity are worse than the help they offer. Does any one as real good experience with any kind of alternative therapy/ drugs for my problem. I’m not able to live normally at the moment because of the anxiety. newsgroup, Thanks Cecile

As I am new in this internet Arena I do not know if you have been informed about  a possible remedy One  remedy we are using in the wellbeing centre are related with the Schuesler salts but not in a potentised strenght but as a mineral one of the minerals  we found  very helpful are Potassium phosphate and Magnesium Phosphate There are obviously more factors involved but I can not say which If you are interested I wil try to  transmit  our  evaluation sheet which will give you a breakdown of questions with the related deficiencies. The concept we are working is that  the lack of minerals  and  posible hereditary factors has started off the imbalance of  your body. Also we use the astrological aspects of you date of birth in relation with  Dr. Edward Bach Flower remeries to do this evaluation is very difficult as it take your self   to read trough a large list of  multiple choice questions Martin van leeuwen

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I would appreciate seeing this info also posted to the newsgroup. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi I’ve been suffering from anxiety, panic attacks and sometimes depression as well for already three years (since my daughter was born…). I’m in therapy and it helps to understand WHY I’m feeling so bad, but it doesn’t help me feeling phycically better. I’ve tried a lot of conventional medicines (tranquilizers, antidepressants and beta blockers) but the side effects and addictivity are worse than the help they offer. Does any one as real good experience with any kind of alternative therapy/ drugs for my problem. I’m not able to live normally at the moment because of the anxiety. newsgroup, Thanks Cecile

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