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I’ve decided to put together a low-impact regime of my own.  I had daydreams of selling it on line. We’ll see . . . E. P.

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Go for it. OK, now stretch and bend and squat and poop!  - that’s the IBD version

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A wise man once said  " ones dog doesn’t take a dump when it is out walking just to be a pain"

Yes. I believe that was Ghandi.

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That’s why I like them….. Helps with the ‘ol heartrate. Mary

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Also you can get videos with cute guys doing the excercises!! Debs – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t know if I can explain it this early in the a.m. but walking does aid digestion.  It’s good for circulation, which is good for everything in your body.  Jeff walks almost every day and he also does weights.  I haven’t worked out or walked in some time.  I need to get back out because I feel better when I do walk.  My problem is I don’t like doing it in the cold.  I do occasionally do weights and I do stretching everyday which includes some easy yoga poses.   As for the books, they are harder to follow.  Videos are great because one can actually see a person doing the exercise. Mary walking is GREAT!  aids the digestive system. ****** Wallking’s ok, but how would it aid the digestive system?

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Robert, Jeff uses a treadmill and does weights. Mary

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I dont know if this has an effect, but heres what I do. Every day when i wake up, and before i go to bed i 5 sets of 10 repetitions of light weights. Every saturday i play tennis Every sunday i go a ligh jog around the field i live by. One thing, I know a walk would be good, but I am sure I would need the toilet half way along my route! Robert Walking is one of the best exercises, when done at a sustained pace for 30 min. to keep your heart rate elevated.  Walking increases the heart rate, exercises many of your muscles, helps in your circulation and oxygen exchange and in general makes you feel invigorated by the endorphins your body produces after a good workout.  When you have been ill or recovering from surgery you should start slowly, with your doctor’s permission and supervision, and build slowly, gradually increasing your activity until you reach your goal.  Most doctors will tell you that we lead a too sedentary lifestyle and just walking at a brisk pace for 30 min. a day 3 to 4 times a week would do a whole lot to improving our health.  mgbio – who should be walking too walking is GREAT!  aids the digestive system. ****** Wallking’s ok, but how would it aid the digestive system?

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A wise man once said  " ones dog doesn’t take a dump when it is out walking just to be a pain" Just keep in mind that along with everything else increasing….so will ones oxidative stress when exercising. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Walking is one of the best exercises, when done at a sustained pace for 30 min. to keep your heart rate elevated.  Walking increases the heart rate, exercises many of your muscles, helps in your circulation and oxygen exchange and in general makes you feel invigorated by the endorphins your body produces after a good workout.  When you have been ill or recovering from surgery you should start slowly, with your doctor’s permission and supervision, and build slowly, gradually increasing your activity until you reach your goal.  Most doctors will tell you that we lead a too sedentary lifestyle and just walking at a brisk pace for 30 min. a day 3 to 4 times a week would do a whole lot to improving our health.  mgbio – who should be walking too walking is GREAT!  aids the digestive system. ****** Wallking’s ok, but how would it aid the digestive system?

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She asked for the most effective, not most likely to be done, LOL!   I am glad your regiment works for you.  mgbio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all, I dont know if this has an effect, but heres what I do. Every day when i wake up, and before i go to bed i 5 sets of 10 repetitions of light weights. Every saturday i play tennis Every sunday i go a ligh jog around the field i live by. One thing, I know a walk would be good, but I am sure I would need the toilet half way along my route! Robert Walking is one of the best exercises, when done at a sustained pace for 30 min. to keep your heart rate elevated.  Walking increases the heart rate, exercises many of your muscles, helps in your circulation and oxygen exchange and in general makes you feel invigorated by the endorphins your body produces after a good workout.  When you have been ill or recovering from surgery you should start slowly, with your doctor’s permission and supervision, and build slowly, gradually increasing your activity until you reach your goal.  Most doctors will tell you that we lead a too sedentary lifestyle and just walking at a brisk pace for 30 min. a day 3 to 4 times a week would do a whole lot to improving our health.  mgbio – who should be walking too walking is GREAT!  aids the digestive system. ****** Wallking’s ok, but how would it aid the digestive system?

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Thanks for your advice. E. P.

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Hi all, I dont know if this has an effect, but heres what I do. Every day when i wake up, and before i go to bed i 5 sets of 10 repetitions of light weights. Every saturday i play tennis Every sunday i go a ligh jog around the field i live by. One thing, I know a walk would be good, but I am sure I would need the toilet half way along my route! Robert – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Walking is one of the best exercises, when done at a sustained pace for 30 min. to keep your heart rate elevated.  Walking increases the heart rate, exercises many of your muscles, helps in your circulation and oxygen exchange and in general makes you feel invigorated by the endorphins your body produces after a good workout.  When you have been ill or recovering from surgery you should start slowly, with your doctor’s permission and supervision, and build slowly, gradually increasing your activity until you reach your goal.  Most doctors will tell you that we lead a too sedentary lifestyle and just walking at a brisk pace for 30 min. a day 3 to 4 times a week would do a whole lot to improving our health.  mgbio – who should be walking too walking is GREAT!  aids the digestive system. ****** Wallking’s ok, but how would it aid the digestive system?

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Wait a minute….this sounds like something I would say. hmm, lol! You are absolutely correct. And there are many ways in which is does this. Wish I had time to go into it more but gotta go pick up my date Have a Happy!!! Jeff2 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – walking is GREAT!  aids the digestive system. jeff I’ve been hovering here off and on, with very occasional posts. What exercise regime is good for Crohn’s disease patients? My love and I tried a tiny _Pilates for Dummies_, but the book was too confusing.  (Please, no comment from the peanut gallery.  ) E. P.

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As mentioned by a few people, walking can be very good, just don’t walk too far from home, until you are better that is – or know where the nearest bathroom is.  :) If you can go up and down some hills that adds a little more strengthening to the walk as it works the gluts and quads more. I’ve studied a lot of Tai Chi and it works a lot with the leg muscles. If you can find a beginner Tai Chi or Yoga class that wouldn’t be bad either. Stretching is also very good. Yoga does a lot of stretching and so does Chi Gung (also great stuff) which is another Eastern form of energy building exercises. Have a Happy!!! Jeff 2

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Walking is one of the best exercises, when done at a sustained pace for 30 min. to keep your heart rate elevated.  Walking increases the heart rate, exercises many of your muscles, helps in your circulation and oxygen exchange and in general makes you feel invigorated by the endorphins your body produces after a good workout.  When you have been ill or recovering from surgery you should start slowly, with your doctor’s permission and supervision, and build slowly, gradually increasing your activity until you reach your goal.  Most doctors will tell you that we lead a too sedentary lifestyle and just walking at a brisk pace for 30 min. a day 3 to 4 times a week would do a whole lot to improving our health.  mgbio – who should be walking too – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – walking is GREAT!  aids the digestive system. ****** Wallking’s ok, but how would it aid the digestive system?

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I don’t know if I can explain it this early in the a.m. but walking does aid digestion.  It’s good for circulation, which is good for everything in your body.  Jeff walks almost every day and he also does weights.  I haven’t worked out or walked in some time.  I need to get back out because I feel better when I do walk.  My problem is I don’t like doing it in the cold.  I do occasionally do weights and I do stretching everyday which includes some easy yoga poses.   As for the books, they are harder to follow.  Videos are great because one can actually see a person doing the exercise. Mary

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okay, wake up mary (the queen)…lol. walking aids the gi because it has something to do with getting the muscles moving and toned, but also it gets the blood flowing (and remember, this increases oxygen flow, etc).  remember, exercise (especially full body like walking) helps strengthen internal organs, not just muscles you need for movement.  just think of your heart, it is one massive muscle in itself. your gi organs are also mostly muscle. jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t know if I can explain it this early in the a.m. but walking does aid digestion.  It’s good for circulation, which is good for everything in your body.  Jeff walks almost every day and he also does weights.  I haven’t worked out or walked in some time.  I need to get back out because I feel better when I do walk.  My problem is I don’t like doing it in the cold. I do occasionally do weights and I do stretching everyday which includes some easy yoga poses.   As for the books, they are harder to follow.  Videos are great because one can actually see a person doing the exercise. Mary walking is GREAT!  aids the digestive system. ****** Wallking’s ok, but how would it aid the digestive system?

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walking is GREAT!  aids the digestive system. jeff

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My love and I tried a tiny _Pilates for Dummies_, but the book was too confusing.  (Please, no comment from the peanut gallery.  )

Try the video. I find that seeing  it done is less confusing than even the most detailed description.

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walking is GREAT!  aids the digestive system.

****** Wallking’s ok, but how would it aid the digestive system?

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I’ve been hovering here off and on, with very occasional posts. What exercise regime is good for Crohn’s disease patients? My love and I tried a tiny _Pilates for Dummies_, but the book was too confusing.  (Please, no comment from the peanut gallery.  ) E. P.

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Anyone else using yoga to help them with their quit?

I couldn’t have quit without breathing…I mean yoga breathing, that is!! Deep breathing should always pull you through a crave. Good luck, Amber D

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Hope work goes ok…I have been known to drop into a downward dog in my office just to ease the tension! meanie. I suppose the downward cats are off limits huh?

LOL. I work with a lot of guys…ain’t no way I’d let a pussy in here Shouldn’t you be working Miss Skyler?? Paula

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I’ve been thinking about starting yoga to increase my stretchines for karate.  I’m finding it difficult to kick at a level higher than about chest height, and some of the longer/deeper stances are hard to maintain.  I wondered if yoga might speed things up.  Any thoughts?

Yup, it would help. It does take some time…for example, I have a lot of nerve damage in my right arm and when I started yoga I had maybe 30% range of movement in that arm. It meant I couldn’t do things like do up my bra at the back. It took about four months of at least weekly sessions but my right arm is now very nearly as good as my left. I know a woman in her 60’s who had terrible arthritis and she started our yoga classes and has improved just so much, so I think it’s something that anyone can get some benefit from. Hope work goes ok…I have been known to drop into a downward dog in my office just to ease the tension! That sounds really dirty.

LOL! I close my door so no one can see Paula

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i LOVE yoga! daily! — read and post daily, it works! rosie If you don’t like life, its the way you’re livin’ A little less takin’, a bit more givin’; A little less hatin’, a little more lovin’; A little more helpin’, not o much shovin’; A little more smilin’, not so much strife, And soon you will be in love with life.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone else using yoga to help them with their quit? I started yoga a couple of weeks ago, and it so relaxed me that it gave me a renewed wish to quit.  So, here we are on my first quit day. I did a 20 minute easy yoga routine this morning and am feeling fine. Right now, anyway. Wonder what will happen at work? Nan.com

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Anyone else using yoga to help them with their quit? I started yoga a couple of weeks ago, and it so relaxed me that it gave me a renewed wish to quit.  So, here we are on my first quit day. I did a 20 minute easy yoga routine this morning and am feeling fine. Right now, anyway. Wonder what will happen at work? Nan.com

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Anything that keeps you busy will be a benefit in your quit Nan. Welcome to AS3. I hope I get to watch your meter grow up to be big and strong. Read and post here on the newsgroup, it is a wonderful tool. Get your thoughts and feelings out. Believe in yourself. Keep your husband pumped up and he needs to do the same to you. Go Nan go!!!! Dion

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone else using yoga to help them with their quit? I started yoga a couple of weeks ago, and it so relaxed me that it gave me a renewed wish to quit.  So, here we are on my first quit day. I did a 20 minute easy yoga routine this morning and am feeling fine. Right now, anyway. Wonder what will happen at work? Nan.com

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Hi Nan! Yoga rocks! I started yoga for pain relief, and have continued just because it keeps me limber and keeps the pain down, and also helps with the stress side of things. I think when you start doing something good for your body (like yoga) you tend to want to stop all the unhealthy stuff (like smoking)… Hope work goes ok…I have been known to drop into a downward dog in my office just to ease the tension! Paula

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone else using yoga to help them with their quit? I started yoga a couple of weeks ago, and it so relaxed me that it gave me a renewed wish to quit.  So, here we are on my first quit day. I did a 20 minute easy yoga routine this morning and am feeling fine. Right now, anyway. Wonder what will happen at work? Nan.com

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Hope work goes ok…I have been known to drop into a downward dog in my office just to ease the tension!

meanie. I suppose the downward cats are off limits huh?

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Hi Nan! Yoga rocks! I started yoga for pain relief, and have continued just because it keeps me limber and keeps the pain down, and also helps with the stress side of things. I think when you start doing something good for your body (like yoga) you tend to want to stop all the unhealthy stuff (like smoking)…

I’ve been thinking about starting yoga to increase my stretchines for karate.  I’m finding it difficult to kick at a level higher than about chest height, and some of the longer/deeper stances are hard to maintain.  I wondered if yoga might speed things up.  Any thoughts? Hope work goes ok…I have been known to drop into a downward dog in my office just to ease the tension!

That sounds really dirty. Lemming — Curiosity *may* have killed Schrodinger’s cat. http://goldcrossdata.co.uk/                      ICQ: 8647501

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Anyone else using yoga to help them with their quit? I started yoga a couple of weeks ago, and it so relaxed me that it gave me a renewed wish to quit.  So, here we are on my first quit day. I did a 20 minute easy yoga routine this morning and am feeling fine. Right now, anyway. Wonder what will happen at work? Nan.com

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Anything that keeps you busy will be a benefit in your quit Nan. Welcome to AS3. I hope I get to watch your meter grow up to be big and strong. Read and post here on the newsgroup, it is a wonderful tool. Get your thoughts and feelings out. Believe in yourself. Keep your husband pumped up and he needs to do the same to you. Go Nan go!!!! Dion

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone else using yoga to help them with their quit? I started yoga a couple of weeks ago, and it so relaxed me that it gave me a renewed wish to quit.  So, here we are on my first quit day. I did a 20 minute easy yoga routine this morning and am feeling fine. Right now, anyway. Wonder what will happen at work? Nan.com

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Hi Nan! Yoga rocks! I started yoga for pain relief, and have continued just because it keeps me limber and keeps the pain down, and also helps with the stress side of things. I think when you start doing something good for your body (like yoga) you tend to want to stop all the unhealthy stuff (like smoking)… Hope work goes ok…I have been known to drop into a downward dog in my office just to ease the tension! Paula

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone else using yoga to help them with their quit? I started yoga a couple of weeks ago, and it so relaxed me that it gave me a renewed wish to quit.  So, here we are on my first quit day. I did a 20 minute easy yoga routine this morning and am feeling fine. Right now, anyway. Wonder what will happen at work? Nan.com

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Hope work goes ok…I have been known to drop into a downward dog in my office just to ease the tension!

meanie. I suppose the downward cats are off limits huh?

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Hi Nan! Yoga rocks! I started yoga for pain relief, and have continued just because it keeps me limber and keeps the pain down, and also helps with the stress side of things. I think when you start doing something good for your body (like yoga) you tend to want to stop all the unhealthy stuff (like smoking)…

I’ve been thinking about starting yoga to increase my stretchines for karate.  I’m finding it difficult to kick at a level higher than about chest height, and some of the longer/deeper stances are hard to maintain.  I wondered if yoga might speed things up.  Any thoughts? Hope work goes ok…I have been known to drop into a downward dog in my office just to ease the tension!

That sounds really dirty. Lemming — Curiosity *may* have killed Schrodinger’s cat. http://goldcrossdata.co.uk/                      ICQ: 8647501

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Hope work goes ok…I have been known to drop into a downward dog in my office just to ease the tension! meanie. I suppose the downward cats are off limits huh?

LOL. I work with a lot of guys…ain’t no way I’d let a pussy in here Shouldn’t you be working Miss Skyler?? Paula

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I’ve been thinking about starting yoga to increase my stretchines for karate.  I’m finding it difficult to kick at a level higher than about chest height, and some of the longer/deeper stances are hard to maintain.  I wondered if yoga might speed things up.  Any thoughts?

Yup, it would help. It does take some time…for example, I have a lot of nerve damage in my right arm and when I started yoga I had maybe 30% range of movement in that arm. It meant I couldn’t do things like do up my bra at the back. It took about four months of at least weekly sessions but my right arm is now very nearly as good as my left. I know a woman in her 60’s who had terrible arthritis and she started our yoga classes and has improved just so much, so I think it’s something that anyone can get some benefit from. Hope work goes ok…I have been known to drop into a downward dog in my office just to ease the tension! That sounds really dirty.

LOL! I close my door so no one can see Paula

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i LOVE yoga! daily! — read and post daily, it works! rosie If you don’t like life, its the way you’re livin’ A little less takin’, a bit more givin’; A little less hatin’, a little more lovin’; A little more helpin’, not o much shovin’; A little more smilin’, not so much strife, And soon you will be in love with life.

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Anyone else using yoga to help them with their quit?

I couldn’t have quit without breathing…I mean yoga breathing, that is!! Deep breathing should always pull you through a crave. Good luck, Amber D

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Still no 100+. Clown Bush getting you down? charlie —

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Did he run?

only to get away from Odense J

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sat rest, lobster party without wild dancing

What’s a lobster party without the wild dancing?  Geez… Karen

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Mon-9 easy on trails, 6:40 pace Tues-5 in AM 6:38 pace.  PM, 8X800 with 2 min recovery between each, 3 min break after 4th.  2:31, 2:28, 2:27, 2:27, 2:27, 2:26, 2:25, 2:22.  Felt like a good set, should have started a little faster though.  5 miles of warmup/ cooldown. Wed-5 in AM @ 6:50 pace, 9 in PM @ 6:40 pace Thurs- 1.7 warmup, then 10.3 mile tempo run at 5:38 pace.  Cooldown to total    13 miles. Fri-7 easy 6:45 pace Sat- 20 miles, first 15 at 7:15 avg then finished last 5 all at 5:45-6:00 pace. Sun- 8 easy 6:45-7:00 pace Total for week: 86 miles —Only one more hard workout (mile repeats Tues) before I’m officially tapering for Chicago.  Couple weeks ago I thought my abbreviated training for this marathon would result in a slower time, but this week I started beating my times from my last training cycle this spring (a whole minute faster on the 10.3 mile tempo).  Will decide after mile repeats, but probable marathon goal is 2:30-2:31. ANdy Hass

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Monday:          5 easy Tuesday :         6.5 easy weights, abs Thursday         12 – 4 at lunch, 8 after dinner moderate Friday off         weights,abs  and yoga Saturday         7 easy yoga 58 miles total two weeks to got to Marathon day goal 3:30

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Not my week. I intended to run a 20K today, but yesterday I strained a back muscle (right quadratus lumborum, old injury) and spent last night staying up late fiddling with a hot-water bottle. Decided to sleep in today instead. Not sure whether I’ll try a run. (A lot to do around the house …) Ran 6 miles earlier in the week. Bleh. I feel heavy. — Brian P. Baresch Fort Worth, Texas, USA Professional editing and proofreading If you’re going through hell, keep going. –Winston Churchill

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Hi All, Tell us about your training week and goals.

Goals 10k in Bexhill (report already filed) Monday – dnr Tuesday – dnr Wednesday dnr Thursday – about 3.5 mile run with group Friday – dnr Saturday – 3 miles slow Sunday – 10k race I was fighting a virus all this week and last and really I panicked about race performance for today.  I cut back on my runs, slowed down and concentrated on form only – something worked because although I felt like death going into today’s race I produced a reasonable time and finished as was my goal – IN GOOD FORM!  No aches or pains yet, just a heaviness in the legs and tired arms so I’m really happy and my finisher’s medal is a gorgeous thing …. I love this sport. Kay

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Goals: – next = sub 3h marathon, end of October. – just hit one of this year’s goals. Did a 10k in 36m41s this morning. New PB and it qualifies for national championships next year, in masters category. I’ll come last of course but so what I wasn’t planning this race at all. I had planned to do a very long, slow run yesterday instead, accompanying friends on the first 42k loop of the Millau 100k race. But my wife ordered me not to go, under threats of divorce and emasculation, so rage and frustration drove me to go out today and ignore the wind and tired legs from last Sundays half-marathon :- Mon    1:02  11.5k  7.0mi  Recovery at 5′31/km (8′52/mi) Tue    1:04  12.0k  7.5mi  Slow endurance 5′15/km (8′26/mi) Wed AM 0:47   9.0k  5.5mi  Slow endurance 5′13/km (8′24/mi)     PM 0:51  11.0k  7.0mi  31′ accelerating 5′30-3′40/km (8′51-5′54/mi)                            20′ at 5′30/k (8′51/mi) Thu    1:10  13.0k  8.0mi  Recovery at 5′30/k (8′52/mi) Fri    REST Sat    0:39   7.0k  4.0mi  30′ at 5′34/k (8(57/mi) + 5*30"/30" lines Sun AM 1:07  16.0k 10.0mi  30′ up (once round race circuit + 1km)                            10km race in 36′41" (17th/180, 5th 40-49yo)     PM 1:20  18.0k 11.0mi  Brisk endurance at 4′34/km (7′21/mi) Total  8:00   97km  60mi

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A taper week for the Windsor half marathon Wed – rest Thurs – DNR – traffic congestion meant I missed the club run mins slower than PB. An unseasonably hot day (23deg plus and not much shade) didn’t help. Splits varied from 7:50 to nearly 10. The kind of race where you think at the end –  ’Why do I bother?’ Total 27.7 I have a nasty feeling that I’m turning out to be a ‘one pace runner’. I can run easy Sunday runs at 9:15 per mile yet cannot race much below 8mins per mile for any distance. Maybe I need to stick short (400m) intervals into my training every week? Charlie PS Bernard, I love that quote. Bring on the Titans!

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Goal: half-marathon October 6th Goal this week: do a final test run with race pace and a few short runs What happened: one thing led to another and this became a week of rest, so Doug’s ideas will be tested very soon. mon   30 min hills tue   rest wed rest thu   40 min moderate fri rest sat rest, lobster party without wild dancing sun rest total 70 minutes During next week I will run 7 k on Monday, 5 on Friday and 21.098 k on Sunday. Target 2:05-2:15. Jarno

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Goal: 13.3 k race on Sunday 6 October, then Hans Christian Andersen Marathon in Odense on 13 October

Let’s hope this will go like a fairytale. ) Did he run? Jarno

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A serious violation of the 10% rule. Jarno

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Goals: building base for spring marathon; and a 60-minute track race Oct. 30 (can you say ‘new challenge’? ). Tue: DNR, coming down with a cold Thu: DNR Fri: DNR, on the road, but the cold is gone Total: 32 miles It’s been another week with fewer, longer runs, due to a somewhat busy schedule. This is actually working out very well, as I feel that taking longer breaks between runs enables me to run stronger – besides the fact that I enjoy longer runs more. My speed this week has made me realize I really can train faster than I have been; so, I’m adjusting my definition of base/easy pace to 9:00 (with a range) and brisk to around 8:30-8:45. nina

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Goal: 13.3 k race on Sunday 6 October, then Hans Christian Andersen Marathon in Odense on 13 October Mon 12 at marathon tempo with club, quite hilly Tue dnr Wed dnr Thur 9 x Yasso 800s plus jog to track and back Fri 10 k with some fast bits (3 x 1 k) and the last 1 k at 4.38 Sat 20 K including course of Sunday’s race, total time 1.51 including breaks Sun badminton tournament (prizes for all entrants), won 2 lost 2.

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Goals: base building, fun, endurance.  Lots of races coming up; I want to treat them as hard runs and to learn how to pace myself better (heh).  Next race is a 5K October 5. M: dnr T: 7 – 2 warmup, 3 hard, 2 cooldown (8:50 overall pace) W: 6 easy (9:21), recovery from hard run Tuesday R: dnr F: 4 easy (8:54) Sa: 10K (8:53), 2M warmup/cooldown (9:45) Su: 5 easy (9:08), felt more like recovery Total: 30.2 (most ever) Finally made it to 30mpw! Good week all Kaaren

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Hi All, Tell us about your training week and goals.

M       Rest T        6 miles 62:00 W       3 miles 23:54 (7:58 avg.) T        8 miles 1:18 F        4 miles 37:03 (including route of upcoming 5K race in town) just under marathon pace goal for last 10 miles w/hills. S       DNR Total:  35 miles

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Had a pretty nice week.  Had a great cruis interval workout.  I think I might be in as good of shape as what I was in before I entered the Army so I’m getting excited. Mon:    5 miles 37:02 Tue:    5 miles 37:00 Wed:    2 mile wu, 3×1mile/1min rest, 2 mile warm down.  Splits 6:21,         6:09, 5:59 Thu:    5 miles 38:00 Fri:    4 miles 40:00 (note: my unit’s company run) Sat:    5 miles 38:55 Sun:    5 miles 37:10 Total week: 36 miles Goals: Short term run a 5k under 18:00, season run sub 4:10 in 1500m and 2:00 in 800m, long term hit 3:53 in 1500m. Ed – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi All, Tell us about your training week and goals.

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Training for: October 20: 5k race October 27: 10k race April 21: Boston marathon Monday: 2 hours of touch football, intense. Tuesday: am bike: 15.5km – pm bike: 15.5km bike: 14.5km – pm bike: 14.5km Thursday: am bike: 27.5km – pm bike: 20 km Saturday: am bike: 27km – pm bike:19.5km Sunday: run: 20k with 6 * 0:20/0:20 hard/easy 1:30:33 Total bike: 154km – 95 miles Total run: 43.7km – 27.15 miles — "Just Win, Baby!" Al Davis  Bernard     O    ///   /  GOTTA RUN!

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Nina, yes, it’s cold season again. I’ve felt a little run-down lately, but have been popping the vit. C and taking care of myself…. have warded off the ickies so far… even with a 9-year-old germ farm (daughter) running around here  :) good running, and good that you have found a system that works well for you. all that hard work has paid off, and you’re a little speed demon now, eh? i’m bracing myself for my first run in quite a while tomorrow. it will be short, and it could be slow. this is the most nerve-wracking part of running… the first tentative steps after a layoff, not quite sure if things are going to hurt again or not. the knee and leg haven’t bothered me in several days, so i’m hoping that means the worst of it is over. i won’t even post a training week, since none of it is running – just swimming and walking – and a weight workout (something that i never thought i’d get back into). good work! Cam – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Goals: building base for spring marathon; and a 60-minute track race Oct. 30 (can you say ‘new challenge’? ). Tue: DNR, coming down with a cold Thu: DNR Fri: DNR, on the road, but the cold is gone Total: 32 miles It’s been another week with fewer, longer runs, due to a somewhat busy schedule. This is actually working out very well, as I feel that taking longer breaks between runs enables me to run stronger – besides the fact that I enjoy longer runs more. My speed this week has made me realize I really can train faster than I have been; so, I’m adjusting my definition of base/easy pace to 9:00 (with a range) and brisk to around 8:30-8:45. nina Hi All, Tell us about your training week and goals.

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I guess I’m running 3 miles in a "Crop Walk" today, so I have 62.3 miles.   Troy Mon- 8 miles 48:29 Tues- 13 miles on trails 1:37:23 Wed- 10 miles 1:09:17 Thurs- 9 miles 58:30 Fri- 10 miles 1:10:00 Sat- 9.3 miles- 3 x X-C course 58:45 Sun- Rest Day Total- 59.3 miles Troy http://community.webtv.net/tmacrun/WorldUSLists http://community.webtv.net/tmacrun/OhioRunningLinks

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Hi All, Tell us about your training week and goals. — "Just Win, Baby!" Al Davis  Bernard     O    ///   /  GOTTA RUN! To reply by e-mail remove SPAM

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Training for the Chicago Marathon (10/13) … this week starts my lowered mileage. Mon: 3 miles (28:55).  Recovery from 18 mile run the day before. Tues: DNR Wed: 6 miles (53:13).  Felt comfortable. Thurs: 3 miles (27:09). Fri: DNR Sat: 10 miles (91:20).  Was supposed to be a 12 mile run, but it was hot and I started feeling dehydrated/hungry and my legs were tired.  I decided that with the marathon 2 weeks away, it wasn’t worth pushing myself unnecessarily. Sun: WNR (will not run) total miles: 22

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Mon- 8 miles 48:29 Tues- 13 miles on trails 1:37:23 Wed- 10 miles 1:09:17 Thurs- 9 miles 58:30 Fri- 10 miles 1:10:00 Sat- 9.3 miles- 3 x X-C course 58:45 Sun- Rest Day Total- 59.3 miles Troy http://community.webtv.net/tmacrun/WorldUSLists http://community.webtv.net/tmacrun/OhioRunningLinks

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Hi All, Tell us about your training week and goals.

Recovering from half marathon last weekend. Had blister that would not really heal, and when I got out, I had problems on the outside left knee, probably a result of last weekend. So I will have to not run for a few more days. Goal: sub-3:50 marathon next spring. Mo: DNR Tu: DNR We: DNR Th: DNR Fr: DNR Sa: 7.5 km, 43:40. Including some walking (injured). Su; Better not run

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It has me….in many ways. I sleep better after many years of an interrupted sleep cycle. It is incorporated into my daily routine. — LyndaNP Reality isn’t the way you wish things to be, nor the way they appear to be, but the way they actually are. – Robert J. Ringer

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In the past it has helped tremendously. It’s on my ‘plan’ of things to do once I get a little more ambition/once the blanket lifts over my head. — regards, Compucat  ^+^<

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It has me….in many ways. I sleep better after many years of an interrupted sleep cycle. It is incorporated into my daily routine. — LyndaNP Reality isn’t the way you wish things to be, nor the way they appear to be, but the way they actually are. – Robert J. Ringer

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I don’t particularly like to exercise, but I have found it to be a bootstrapper.  That is, I can’t get myself to do it when I’m at my worst, but once I reach a certain threshold, I can exercise and that lifts my mood even higher. Doctors can tell you about all the physio-psychological effects of it much better than I can.  But for me, going through a 10-15 minute exercise routine every morning I can lets me start the day with one success under my belt.  That’s a nice boost to confidence and self-esteem. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It has me….in many ways. I sleep better after many years of an interrupted sleep cycle. It is incorporated into my daily routine.

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It has me….in many ways. I sleep better after many years of an interrupted sleep cycle. It is incorporated into my daily routine.

hiya lynda  im glad you are finding things to keep on track with. i dont think the benefit of plain, simple routine can be overemphasized for people with a lot of emotional stuff to deal with… about ‘exercise’, :=}} my friends have long referred to me as either others here, just getting up at all can seem like exercise.. verrrrry very gradually, im trying to incorporate bits of enforced movement, a few situps, a few stretches, and of course yoga. you guys may remember me talking about this a few months ago, when i began to contemplate the idea of adding exercise (and the concept of movement at all really)  to my life structure. well ive been letting it happen gradually, but it is slowly beginning to bloom. my body is beginning to ask for it, to miss it if i do not supply the usual stretches or jumping around. i think thats good. it feels like a healthy thing. maybe one day this will all add up to something i can call a routine, but for now, its the best i can do. i feel better doing these things, but its really the fact that i accomplished -anything-, that feels good at this point. just accomplishing anything at all, i allow myself to feel good about this. tiny successes are gradually adding up to a feeling of competence and satisfaction about my abilities, just in general. that has been a great help in my overall feelings of wellbeing. exercise has become one part of this overall effort towards competence, and the more i can do, i know it will start to add up. one day i will hopefully do enough of it, that i actually start to reap physiological benefits as well as just the knowlege that i was off my ass for a -couple- minutes in a given 24 hour stretch :-} i dont think i do enough real exercise yet to really feel physiological benefits…  although i can tell ive lost weight, and i can tell it reduces stress if ive done that handful of situps on a given day. im trying to make it one of my ‘reward-center’ behaviors. one of the things i turn to to feel better, like doing a chore, or having a treat, or any of those positive reinforcers we all have. exercise is on my (growing) list of things to do, when i want to feel better for some reason, or feel like i accomplished something good. its becoming part of my positive-feedback loop that im creating for myself. bottom line though: its plain *routine* itself, thats been the lifesaver so far. no matter what it is, a little bit of routine, has saved me when little else could.. and after a life of untreated bipolar and sleep cycle disruption at the most core levels of my brain, any routine at all, goes a long, long way towards keeping me on some kind of balanced existence. so ‘exercise’ i think is useful on two levels. one, that its a routine in and of itself. -anything- done with consistency, will be helpful to keep people ‘like us’ with such an ever-changing and dramatic emotional landscape, on an even keel.  and also, when i can do it enough to feel what its supposed to do, i can tell its a stress reducer and a toxin releaser as well. all around useful but worth starting slow so ya dont burn out. a lot of us depressed people do have major problems with fatigue and lack of energy, so ‘exercise’ would be something to start VERY slowly and in a very forgiving state of mind. some people just dont have the energy to waste getting tired with a bunch of unecessary movement. so the only thing i can say is, if you want to do it, start slow. be happy with any little success. eventually you will cultivate a routine that will be of benefit when times become hard and you are tempted to stray off your path. but let it grow naturally. let it be a positive thing, a positive reinforcer for yourself. exercise can fill that role like a lot of other things. these explorations into the world of vountary movement, after a lifetime of conserving energy like a starving person, have been a good eye-opener. i would =not= encourage anyone to exercise if they really dont have the energy. there are lots of low impact forms of exercise such as yoga and just muscle-stretching that even very tired people can do and benefit from. stressing yourself out, would be a mis-application. but starting very very slow, and slowly building up, *can* be a way to re-enter the world of moving people and become a person who is able to move and exert energy and have that be beneficial to the system, rather than always be dogged by fatigue, or worse yet the feeling that you are no good and will never accomplish anything positive anyway, which is what stops us a lot of times from taking those risks. thats my take on it all. from a veteran sloth-meister. }   watch that snail-trail anna — LyndaNP Reality isn’t the way you wish things to be, nor the way they appear to be, but the way they actually are. – Robert J. Ringer

– "it is so easy to return to our spirit world from where we came.  life is not easy. but life is not nearly so hard when we honor the self…." ~~ blessed are we to dwell in these beautiful temples ~~

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The best exercise for dealing with a variety of conditions is that exertion one expends when beating the holy crap out of a deserving a*hole. The subsequent run for your life from the cops  is superior to the run most of your jogger types get.  The aderenaline rush and burn is excellent for anxiety. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I really need to get into an exercise rutine.. but it is so hard here in the Rainy Pacific North West.. A health club full of people would be overwhelming to me.

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You mean no vizualising, only thinking energy flows through the top of the skull? Yes. Enjoy!

OK, the last questions: "Begin to chant "Sat Nam" emphatically in a constant rhythm about eight times per 10 seconds. Chant the sound "Sat" from the navel point and solar plexus, and pull the umbilicus all the way in toward the spine. On "Nam" relax the belly. Continue at leas t 3 minutes, then inhale and squeeze the muscles tightly from the buttocks all the way up the back, past the shoulders. Mentally allow the energy to flow through the top of the skull. Ideally, you should relax for twice the length of time that the kriya  was practiced." How long are you to squeeze the muscles tightly from the buttocks all the way up the back, past the shoulders? And this relaxing you mention: "You may build the time of the kriya to 31 minutes, but remember to have a long, deep relaxation immediately afterwards." This is only to sit and rest in sukhasana?without squezzing any muscles. thanks in advannce:) Lars

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You mean no vizualising, only thinking energy flows through the top of the skull? Yes. Enjoy!

I hope you hade a nice weekend! OK, the last questions: "Begin to chant "Sat Nam" emphatically in a constant rhythm about eight

times per 10 seconds. Chant the sound "Sat" from the navel point and solar plexus, and pull the umbilicus all the way in toward the spine. On "Nam" relax the belly. Continue at leas t 3 minutes, then inhale and squeeze the muscles tightly from the buttocks

all the way up the back, past the shoulders. Mentally allow the energy to flow through the top of the skull. Ideally, you should relax for twice the length of time that the kriya  was practiced." How long are you to squeeze the muscles tightly from the buttocks all the way up the back, past the shoulders?

As long as you hold the breath in. And this relaxing you mention:

By the way: it wasn’t me writing all this at www.3ho.org "You may build the time of the kriya to 31 minutes, but remember to have a

long, deep relaxation immediately afterwards." This is only to sit and rest in sukhasana?without squezzing any muscles.

Without squeezing any muscel and laying down in corpse pose, arms at the sides, palms of the hands facing up. thanks in advannce:)

You are wellcomned Lars! Sat Nam – Hari Har Singh

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Yes, that’s right Lars. The upper arms – not the ellbows. Wrong description on that webpage! Can you post this hint to the 3ho.org homepage webmaster? (it’s not me) That would be very kind. Only if you answer a couple of more questions:)

Ok You write: "Begin to chant "Sat Nam" emphatically in a constant rhythm about eight

times per 10 seconds. Chant the sound "Sat" from the navel point and solar plexus, and pull the umbilicus all the way in toward the spine. On "Nam" relax the belly." Shall I inhale on Sat and exhale on Nam?

In- and Exhale usualy comes naturaly – you don’t need to "think" about it or manipulate it. But mostly you will exhale on or with the "Nam" and shortly inhale before the "Sat". Furthermore: "Continue at least 3 minutes, then inhale and squeeze the muscles tightly

from the buttocks all the way up the back, past the shoulders. Mentally allow the energy to flow through the top of the skull." You mean no vizualising, only thinking energy flows through the top of the skull?

Yes. Enjoy! Sat Nam – Hari Har Singh

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Hari, you have this practice on the webpage of 3ho: "Easy Yoga to Channel Energy up the Spine Sit on  the heels and stretch the arms over the head so that the elbows hug the ears Interlock all the fingers except the first ones (index) which point straight up." With sit on the heels you mean the ordinary Sukhasana? In Sukhasana  I can’t get my elbows to hug the ears, only my upper-arms?

Yes, that’s right Lars. The upper arms – not the ellbows. Wrong description on that webpage! Can you post this hint to the 3ho.org homepage webmaster? (it’s not me) That would be very kind. Thank you! Sat Nam – Hari Har Singh

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Yes, that’s right Lars. The upper arms – not the ellbows. Wrong description on that webpage! Can you post this hint to the 3ho.org homepage webmaster? (it’s not me) That would be very kind.

Only if you answer a couple of more questions:) You write: "Begin to chant "Sat Nam" emphatically in a constant rhythm about eight times per 10 seconds. Chant the sound "Sat" from the navel point and solar plexus, and pull the umbilicus all the way in toward the spine. On "Nam" relax the belly." Shall I inhale on Sat and exhale on Nam? Furthermore: "Continue at least 3 minutes, then inhale and squeeze the muscles tightly from the buttocks all the way up the back, past the shoulders. Mentally allow the energy to flow through the top of the skull." You mean no vizualising, only thinking energy flows through the top of the skull? Lars

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Hi Hari, you have this practice on the webpage of 3ho: "Easy Yoga to Channel Energy up the Spine Sit on  the heels and stretch the arms over the head so that the elbows hug the ears Interlock all the fingers except the first ones (index) which point straight up." With sit on the heels you mean the ordinary Sukhasana? In Sukhasana  I can’t get my elbows to hug the ears, only my upper-arms? Lars

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Thanks David for the info! I

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Sharon Namaste! In my last post regarding alleviating any possible compression at the SI joint through preventing external rotation of the thighs during back bends and by tilting the ASIS bones in toward each other there are a few other reference points that may be easier or adjunctive. 1)  Keep the sit bones wide 2)  Keep the iliac crests left and right) moving away from each other. 3)  Feel the back of sacrum becoming wide and smooth during all asanas. 4)  Draw a line from the occiput down the spine all the way to the tailbone. Perceive the situation of the sacrum and tailbone and "see" (with the inner eye) if there is no twist, distortion, torque, or curve being generated in the asana and if so correct it by  lengthening out the tailbone from the rest of the spine. 5)  Keep the front of the thighs distracted (in traction)  from the pelvis as the front of the pelvis tilts back in backward bends (while preventing any external rotation of the thighs). There are many others but these may be useful awareness tools as well. But if they put you too much in the head, cramp your style, create rigidity, or defuse your spontaneity or energy forget them as they are not "necessary". Asana practice is great for vital concentration as well as a tool for self realization, healing, empowerment, creative inspiration, and ultimate liberation. Jai

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* Ware Kennis*, check altijd of het wel *echt* waar is! OM Shanti — http://home.hccnet.nl/p.blauw. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ——Original Message—– Newsgroups: alt.yoga Hello Sharon! Hi Paul, thanks for your kind words! I guess you’re right about Ahimsa: I have been so tempted to just force that back bend! But I guess pain has been my friend there! (I know what you mean… <sigh For me it’s my neck and shoulders, causing Migraine – like pain in my head often. But it’s improving! So I understand you became enthusiastic about Yoga about 4 years ago and you did a teachers-course, so now you teach the asana’s yourself? That is somewhat how I started also, some time ago now. I was already interested in the philosophical part of Yoga, the *how* (not only about the asana’s) and *why* of it. Since the teacher’s course I am beginning (only) to integrate all the information. Yoga is much more than Hatha Yoga, the positions. And even when teaching those to your students, I always try to fill them in on the backgrounds, at the right moments. To me Yoga is all about control. The control over your body, the control over your energy. Energy control starts for many (and never gets beyond) with breathing exercises, also called Pranayama’s. Yoga is about being Gentle, especially towards oneself. Yoga is about overcoming Ego. Ego is necessary, in order to survive in Modern Society. But Ego gets in the Way when you are involved with Yoga. Without (much) Ego it becomes possible to become the ‘observator’; to look at yourself. It becomes possible to feel. Feel how *your* body reacts to the movements, to their arrest-of-movement and to the relaxation. As everything is energy, also Matter is a form of energy, your body indicates through ’stiffness’ and ‘inflexibility’ where this energy does not flow as it could. This is different for everybody. So it is important to gently explore the limits that your body sets to you, never cross them! Your body is very honest! Often much more honest than we ourselves tend to be. So, listen to your body, explore its limits – they are your limits – and gently ‘brush’ against them, gently touch them. It is my experience that this brings a new flexibility very quickly. Yogasana’s should be practiced from utmost concentration, thus doubling the effect. Otherwise it might become some sort of gymnastics…. So, concentration – Dharana – is a vital part of Yogasana practice. Dharana is close to Dhyana – Meditation. Yoga is about ‘Mind over Matter’. How have you dealt with injuries in your practice? Except for my own (caused by stress) there were few injuries in my classes and I believe that is how it should be. The injuries that occurred were because the person believed he did not need to listen to my instructions or his body, that he could do it better and further or longer that the one on the next mat (ego)… Sometimes I could not stop this in time, but nothing serious happened. One lady however has severe shoulder pain and pain in her back (upper part). She is working much more gentle now but she feels frustrated because she cannot even do some of the simplest exercises. She sees a doctor also and she takes rest now. Sometimes it is just the way it is. Acceptance of the problem sometimes opens a door to Healing. Yoga is the ‘art of doing without doing’, was what my teacher used to say. He is right! I hang with so many people who say they started yoga because of back pain, and since practicing regularly they are pain-free. Perhaps it’s a little more complicated than that. I am afraid so too. No two people are alike! Many people have problems because of incorrect positions while sitting, walking or working… or lack of training for the muscles. They learn a better position, they train the proper muscles and their ‘problem’ disappears. For some it is more complicated… By the way, are you 100% sure there is no chance on a ‘leftover’ from an injury in (early) childhood? Long ago? Like you might have fallen from a chair, the staircase? Things like this might cause the problem you describe, many years later. And it might not even surface until you start practicing ‘weird positions’ like Yoga Maybe a good Chiropractor might have a look at it. I have good experience with them. Joints tend to become displaced sometimes. Chiropractors can correct that. For me it turned out to be a good combination: practice asana’s and see a chiropractor when necessary. Now I have learned to ‘read the signs’ and see one in time Something for you? Here they did fix some ‘fused’ disks that were ‘given up’ by the medical doctors in hospital… But then again, everybody is different! I’m going to see a physical medicine doctor next week to learn more about this–since the quick peek I took when they were developed, I have not seen the x-rays. I wish you luck! Yoga has served as my only form of meditation so far. This is one possible reason why this "interruption" caused by my back has been so disturbing to me! Yoga is both my exercise and my meditation, and now I have to meet these needs in a different way. You don’t *have* to do anything! But maybe it’s a sign for you to try something new and exiting like meditation… You know, for many people a disease or hardship, something like you suffer from now, has become the turning point in Life. They started on a more spiritual part from then, end often the trouble then disappeared… Who knows? This morning I led a Hatha yoga class (I didn’t do any postures myself), Let me guess: till now you always joined the class in exercises? Maybe you should not do this too often any more. You supervise. and something jelled in my mind. 2 or 3 people who came to class were expressing what seemed to be remorse that they hadn’t been to class in so long, right? It turns out that they were on vacation and had not been to class in 2 weeks or so. I thought they were going to say 6 months or something. So they *really* like what you give them! ) Big deal!! But I also recognized that I have bought into that mindset myself. Until recently, I had never gone for more than a week or two without attending yoga class regularly. A part of that motivation was me not wanting to lose ground or get out of shape. Competing with myself! Machoness? (Of course, there’s the fact that sometimes that first class back is just plain hard . . . .). It’s rather liberating not to feel that way. Be gentle towards yourself and you ‘d be surprised, really, even after one year of not attending Yoga class, how fast your suppleness and ease of practice returns! Yoga is not competition, especially not with yourself I did not practice for over 10 years, and within 2 months I was back to where I once was, and beyond! Really, allow it to happen, without doing yourself…. It is such a strong help! I could write more about it but this ‘letter” becomes quite lengthy already… So maybe you don’t feel like reading it when you look at the length of it So maybe till next time! Take it easy on yourself and allow Healing to begin. Thank you, Sharon Get Well!

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I was dxed way before I married my husband and this was a big factor as to why I chose him.  I was in love with another man whom I dated 4 1/2 years before I met Todd.  He finally got the boot because he just didn’t understand or want to understand my illness.  He was mean about it.  Would tease me in front of other people.  Told me that if I was a real person that was strong I should be able to quit taking my medication and will myself to be better.  I stopped the meds to prove him wrong and ended up with the worst flare of my life.  He broke up with me in the hospital (for the 5th time that year) when I was at my sickest. Thank God I didn’t marry him.  I would be miserable. My Hubby, Todd, is truely wonderful.  I am just glad I had the illness before I married anyone….he already knew what to expect and so did I. Julie

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Julie: Great story!  Glad you found Todd, you deserve him after what you went through. Mine was just the opposite. I married the most wonderful man and then got sick 15 years later. You know what? He still is the most wonderful man! It’s been hard, but he has been by my side the whole time. I still can’t believe what good judgment I had when I was 22 and married him!!!! Rebecca – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was dxed way before I married my husband and this was a big factor as to why I chose him.  I was in love with another man whom I dated 4 1/2 years before I met Todd.  He finally got the boot because he just didn’t understand or want to understand my illness.  He was mean about it.  Would tease me in front of other people.  Told me that if I was a real person that was strong I should be able to quit taking my medication and will myself to be better.  I stopped the meds to prove him wrong and ended up with the worst flare of my life.  He broke up with me in the hospital (for the 5th time that year) when I was at my sickest. Thank God I didn’t marry him.  I would be miserable. My Hubby, Todd, is truely wonderful.  I am just glad I had the illness before I married anyone….he already knew what to expect and so did I. Julie

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denis the divorce rate IS high..but i suspect it may be with any chronic illness…now that would make quite a study…<g there is light at the end… my "lights" are two…God ..and alan but sometimes even now i lose sight of everything and fall apart.. i think we all do..its part of the illness not to mention the meds… and its frustrating to be stuck home..i miss working..i miss getting up and feeling i have something "interesting " to do (i just never found housework to be exactly challenging ..tho some people are great at it)…i miss "dressing up "..i miss adult companionship during the day..i miss being somewhere social and having someone ask me about my job and having something to say other than "oh ..i am in between jobs now"..which is my stock answer to strangers as for the spouses who leave well i know many divorce situations that had nothing to do with illness…were around money..sex…or one spouse experiencing midlife crisis or something… i guess we who have ibd or anything like that are more at risk in marriage… but then i look at it this way..when we do have someone who sticks it out..wow…what a way to show love… i know alan loves me..cos he chose me knowing i had this…knowing i have epilepsy and knowing all kinds of other stuff…and he could have had anyone…but he chose me so…the good is that i am entirely confident in this relationship…and that is…well worth it.. talking to a spouse about the pain ..the sadness…the basic "ending" of one’s life as one has known it..i think the doctor can help when i was dx’d back in 1981…they brought down a team of people..the gi..my internist..a social worker…a nutrionist and a psychologist…and wanted to meet with my husband and me together..but he refused…he would never discuss this with anyone..he refused to read about it…or talk to me… he had every chance to understand what this was and how to be a support..and i really would have loved him to be there..but looking back..he was never there for anything else anyway..including things that happened with the kids…big things.. so …i guess its really not a loss and…what i have now? with alan?…it was worth the bitter years before…and the hassle of the divorce…to really have someone who loves the "me" that is me…ibd and all take care love annie in boston (not to be confuse dwith any other annies…lol)

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Annie, It sounds like you are a very special person.  Reading what you have been thru in life and that you have found a very special someone to share your life with….makes my problems seem small.

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Annie, I did read your first letter, I liked it.  You made it sound easy, But you did give some good suggestions.  The divorce rate scares me.  Trying to catch them at the right time is the key.  Thanks for your input, you made it sound like there can be light at the end of the

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hey bonnie i was told by my ex that i "needed a counselor" tho he didnt believe in counseling anyway…(yeah..i am trained as a counselor..so that made my self esteem way down ..1) it meant i didnt take care of my own mental health and 2) my job was worthless in his eyes…(he said all counselors were full of bulls–t) all we can do is be as calm as possible and when feeling fairly ok…explain clearly …slowly and nicely..just what we go thru when we are NOT feeling so great… good luck i have been there and done that…and now thank goodness i have someone who really seems to understand what ibd is…and is supportive and caring.. it has made a huge difference i am also going thru menopause after an early hyst–and in spite of the estrogen i get some hot flashes and of course..mood swings from that…so sometimes i feel like superbitch…and sometimes like i want to simply crawl into a hole and die.. its tough explaining any of that to someone who does not go thru it… ibd is bad enough to explain..menopause…try explaining THAT to a man…yikes… but alan is a saint…<hear that??? take care and be well annie in boston

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steve somehow i cannot imagine YOU being a "total asshole"..(part of one maybe ..<weg) seriously…i tend to cry more than rant …but the ranting is there sometimes too..its frustrating to be in so much pain…and have the other ibd symptoms…and then the meds…and know that its not even a temporary situation..this is it buddy ..for life… but we get by..dont we… take care love annie

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kurt awesome awesome letter.. you are so so right on… i wish my first spouse had half your compassion… but alan more than makes up for it.. and holding on to the one who is suffering…and reassuring them of your presence ..is the best thing one can do thanks for writing this.. love annie in boston

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HI GUYS… I didnt read Kurts post.. WAA.. BUT Annie and the others that responded.. I saved yer postings.. some day I will get Frankie to read them…he even asked me yesterday .. does CD affect your brain? All he keeps saying is that I need therapy.. I begged him to read some of these postings..BOO HOO.. he wont..(at least not at the moment).. all I can say is.. DO YOU FRIGGEN THINK I ENJOY FEELING LIKE THIS???? Like I dont have enough problems with my self esteem and not being able to do the things.. that I not only want to but HAVE to..We havent been out together in wayyyy over a year.. and now.. he HAS a broken leg.. and guess who is nurse is?? Peace and Good Health… Bonnie

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No One Ever talks about us poor poor spouse’s…  How do we live day by day??  Concerning the moods swings, etc…

I guess it’s easier for spouses than it is for friends. At least that is what I have noticed since I left my partner. You might imagine how bad you feel when leaving someone suffering from UC but that’s a different story. Let’s just say the decision was really, really tough. Anyway, when we still were a couple I was able to take the mood swings fairly easily. By now, though we are still very good friends, we see each other less often, and there’s less hugging and listening. So, when we talk every other day, I am not only always surpriesed by her mood but also find the swings very hard to cope with. Right now am hiding away. Which (for me) has its good sides: I started reading UC web sites and finally found this group which helped me a lot in understanding UC better. Good health to all of you, Nils

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i just saw this i would say run and hide after you have said good morning and put on a foil hat <g seriously talk to us when we are feeling "stable" and maybe i will have alan write about this..(hear this alan??) i am not on pred now and still having mood swings…big time partly menopause..still…wow that goes on forever…(if you saw home improvement?? that is almost exactly what happened to me…lol)…and just going thru the divorce and the new family living here and my dad being so ill etc etc etc…not to mention the other meds…and alan puts up with all my crying jags…and the rest… he is like a rock…and i amlike the ocean…with huge waves crashing against him…but he remains there…for me… those of us with ibd..and i guess people with other issues…can be "talked " to lots of times…sit us down when we are feeling quieter and calmer…bring us flowers or something…and quietly and calmly tell us what you are going thru…you would be surprised perhaps at how responsive we are..after all..we know what its like to suffer..and we dont want to inflict our pain on our spouses..friends etc.. take care and i am glad you are on here seeking support too.. annie in boston

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I used to be a spouse, and I know first hand on the strain on

relationships when one is sick.  My divorce was due to a lot of complex factors but I must admit that having CD did not help anything.  My best advice for spouses (or is it spousi?) is to give lots of hugs and sympathy with repeated doses of assurance that you will be there for them. Sometimes being able to just hold on to someone real tight and be able to tell them how rotten you feel helps a great deal.   Kurt "That rainbow song’s no good. Take it out." – MGM memo after first showing of The Wizard Of Oz.

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Denis,  I really do appreciate all the understanding and the love you give me during this stressful times…weaning off prednisone has screwed up my whole head and body….I am trying to recognize the mood swings but sometimes i can’t and I apoligize when i lash out at you about

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After12 years of my collagenous colitis, my husband was just about as crazy as I was.  After all the moods swings, yelling and communication breakdowns, he scheduled a month’s mountain climb in Argentina. I was left to fend for myself…pretty serious stuff for an 85 lb, 57-yr-old woman who spent most of her day in the bathroom. Oddly enough, after his six months of strenuous training and departure from Seattle, I had 4 weeks alone.  I liked it. I began to see myself in different ways. Without him to count on, I was healthier than I thought.  I began some easy yoga exercises; I began taking flax seed meal which totally stopped the diahrea. Mentally I built a life for myself that didn’t have to include him. When he returned from the summit of Mt. Acongagua – 23,000 ft, we were different people. He had met some physical challenges that took his body to the limit. That helped him understand my physical limitations. I too had climbed my own mt. and was stronger and had new vistas to think about. I like being stronger. Hope this gives you some new thoughts. Best to both of you. Susan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have read many letters in here on how the CD, UC and CC People feel with their Illness.  I have read on the prednisone, the effects, mood swings, etc.  No One Ever talks about us poor poor spouse’s…  How do we live day by day??  Concerning the moods swings, etc… Its rough on us too dealing with mood swings.  Do we say good morning or run and hide.

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Run and hide would be my advice! I don’t know what to tell you. When I am not feeling well, I turn into a total asshole. So, knowing that, I take extra care to bite my tongue and be especially polite to everyone around me — well, family and friends, I mean. It may be the only time I actually say "mam & sir" to my folks, but I just figure I really ought not take it out on them because I feel so poorly. But it is sorely tempting at times! Love, Steve http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Falls/3298 http://www.digdat.com/~psyche0/index.html

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Steve: Isn’t this the same as saying that Crohn’s affects your whole body?! Get it?! Sorry – couldn’t resist! Rebecca – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Run and hide would be my advice! I don’t know what to tell you. When I am not feeling well, I turn into a total asshole.

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I am a spouse. It is tough sometimes. Since we work together, and live together… it’s best sometimes to just stay out of the way. I know he can’t control it, and he knows it too. So I try to steer clear when the potty breaks get too frequent. Sometimes the best thing is some sympathy, he feels so bad sometimes. Somehow we deal with it, good luck to you.

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My husband usually says "good morning" and then runs and hides!  LOL Seriously, my spouse has been a rock through this whole ordeal. I was healthy as could be when he married me and 15 years later I am dxed with UC. It has been hard on both of us and hard on our marriage. It was especially hard when I was on prednisone – it was like I was locked inside of myself. If you haven’t read the book "Coping with Prednisone" you should. It deals with support people. The other good book to read is the one by Barbara Barrie (oops, not sure if that is how you spell her name, someone help me here). There is some frank, candid conversations between her and her husband. She had a colostomy due to cancer, but lots of the experiences are the same. Oh, and *thank you* for being a "poor poor spouse" – your spouse must be very lucky! Rebecca – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have read many letters in here on how the CD, UC and CC People feel with their Illness.  I have read on the prednisone, the effects, mood swings, etc.  No One Ever talks about us poor poor spouse’s…  How do we live day by day??  Concerning the moods swings, etc… Its rough on us too dealing with mood swings.  Do we say good morning or run and hide.

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I have read many letters in here on how the CD, UC and CC People feel with their Illness.  I have read on the prednisone, the effects, mood swings, etc.  No One Ever talks about us poor poor spouse’s…  How do we live day by day??  Concerning the moods swings, etc… Its rough on us too dealing with mood swings.  Do we say good morning or run and hide.

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If I had ever said Ma’am and Sir to my folks I would have been sent to my room because it would mean I was sassing them back.  :-) — DAWN/Bonnie

+AHw-Run and hide would be my advice+ACE- +AHw- +AHw-I don’t know what to tell you. When I am not feeling well, I turn into a total +AHw-asshole. So, knowing that, I take extra care to bite my tongue and be +AHw-especially polite to everyone around me — well, family and friends, I mean. It +AHw-may be the only time I actually say +ACI-mam +ACY- sir+ACI- to my folks, but I just figure +AHw-I really ought not take it out on them because I feel so poorly. But it is +AHw-sorely tempting at times+ACE- +AHw- +AHw-Love, +AHw-Steve +AHw- +AHw-psyche0+AEA-digdat.comSPAMFILTERTHINGIE +AHw-http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Falls/3298 +AHw-http://www.digdat.com/+AH4-psyche0/index.html

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Meditation has helped me a lot, although I still am on a very low dose of Klonopin. Often if I am experiencing anxiety of any kind I find I have a tendency to breathe in a very shallow manner. So, now I am consciously aware of my breathing and whenever I find myself holding my breathe or breathing shallow, I stop what I am doing and focus on the breathing. There are techniques to do this, but you can also just simply say to yourself: Breathe in, breathe out. Amazingly, people sometimes forget how important it is to keep breathing! Five minutes of concentrating on my breathing, a form of meditation, will get me focused again. Dolores

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I don’t know, but I signed up for a yoga class specifically to see if it would help me with anxiety and depression.  My first class is in about an hour- I’ll let you know my initial take on it! jb

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Hello,          I go to yoga once a week.  It’s very easy yoga <No bending in to pretzels. hee hee.  It’s more of a meditative yoga.  It’s wonderful. I dont treat my panic disorder with yoga, But it certainly is an added benifit.  I’m agoraphobic, and I can travel about a 2 mile radius from home.  Well, there has been a few instances where I have left my yoga class, and felt so relax, that I’d be able to just hop on a highway and drive 500 miles with no problems. Meditation is also part of my arsenal of weapons against anxiety. Eating well, and exersizing <when strong enough, is also very benificial to me I’ve discovered.   This along with my Doctors advice has helped me an awful lot. I do take meds., but have been able to decrease the benzo <xanax, and still feel okay <smile.  And I believe the yoga has helped ALOT.  Good luck.                               Rhiannon

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Hello! I am new to ASAP. I just wanted to ask. Has anyone ever tried to treat their symtoms with yoga or meditaion. If so, has it seemed to ease the symptoms at all. All I want to do is feel better, and I am up for any suggestions. Feel free to e-mail me, or post here I will check back often.

I have not tried any "official" form of meditation or yoga, but I do practice stretching, relation, and meditations of sorts.  I have found them to be of great help.  I have more information on my web page, and would be happy to add more if you would like. Snit — Snit’s Anxiety Suggestions: http://www.treefort.org/~snit/anxiety.html Ramblings about my journey toward recovery.  

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Jamie.  I think lots of do yoga AND meditation, and walks, and affirmations and keep journals; and lots of other things that Bourne recommends in his workbook. Do they work?  Well, if my case I figure anything that calms me helps; so yes, it does work sometimes.  Do they work all the time?  Not yet for me, anyway.  But they help.  I’m better when I do them regularly than when i don’t. Gordon Held – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello! I am new to ASAP. I just wanted to ask. Has anyone ever tried to treat their symtoms with yoga or meditaion. If so, has it seemed to ease the symptoms

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Hello! I am new to ASAP. I just wanted to ask. Has anyone ever tried to treat

their symtoms with yoga or meditaion. If so, has it seemed to ease the symptoms at all. Hi JS and welcome to ASAP, IMO, meditation is helping me. I recentley joined a group meditation and relaxation class and have attended 2 of them so far. Because we meet at night, I am finding that the entire next day, I feel wonderful. I also firmly believe that this would be something that would be hard for me to do alone or in my own home. The group situation had me alittle freaked out at first and up until 3 hours before I had to leave for class number one, I was still sitting at home trying to think up a legitimate excuse as to why I coudn’t show up. I went anyway, and found that it was easier for me to do this with a circle of strangers because no one could judge me or who I am. At home, there is laundry , homework, kids, phones,  etc.  Being in a group was great albeit strange. This was a first time for me doing anything  like this and I had to be subjected to people holding hands and passing and receiving energy.  There lights were off, only candles,  insense (sp?), music, and that sound of the teachers voice talking/walking us through a very deep meditation session.  I don’t know if they are all like this but it was definately a strange but good experience.  This woman’s house was filled with Indian feathers and statues of angels.  Part of me thought it was a dream, part wanted to run away, and part said "You only have to try it, if you don’t like it , you don’t go back."   The last part won out. I also had to drove there alone, at night, bad weather, 40 minute ride, didn’t know where I was going etc.  First time I did that in 2 years. Should I dare mention that the teacher of the class is my newly found biological mother whom I have only seen 3 times in my life?!   Kathi

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Hello! I am new to ASAP. I just wanted to ask. Has anyone ever tried to treat their symtoms with yoga or meditaion. If so, has it seemed to ease the symptoms at all. All I want to do is feel better, and I am up for any suggestions. Feel free to e-mail me, or post here I will check back often. Jamie http://members.aol.com/jschue9241

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Hello! I am new to ASAP. I just wanted to ask. Has anyone ever tried to treat their symtoms with yoga or meditaion. If so, has it seemed to ease the symptoms at all. All I want to do is feel better, and I am up for any suggestions. Feel free to e-mail me, or post here I will check back often. Jamie http://members.aol.com/jschue9241

Hi Jamie, I use meditation, breathing exercises, and positive thinking to help me handle the panic and anxiety.  I also take Xanax. Cathy Here are some exercises:        Tension & Relaxation exercise Lie down in a quiet room and get comfortable.  Tense each muscle in your body and then relax each muscle, one at a time.  Starting at your head, tense your forehead; hold it for a few seconds and then release.  Notice how relaxed the forehead now feels.  Next move on to your jaw, neck, shoulders, arms, hands and fingers.  Move on to the chest, back, stomach and abdomen.  Then the buttocks, (most of us are sitting a few inches higher because of the tension in that area).  Next move on to your thighs, legs, feet and toes.  At each body part, tense and hold the muscle, then release.  Pay close attention to how it feels when you release the muscles.  Do these exercises every day.  As the days go by you will begin to realize how tense you really are.  In time you will be able to just relax yourself on command.  These exercises can be very useful during a panic attack.  When you are having a Panic attack, all your muscles are tense. Now you will be able to relax these muscles during a panic attack and this will give you a sense of control. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Breathing exercise The following are breathing exercises, you should lie quietly and try to relax a much as possible, then try these exercises.                           1. Keep your tongue above and behind your upper teeth, breathe out through your mouth making a sound.  Then breathe in through your nose to the count of 4, hold it to the count of 7 and noisily let it out to the count of 8.  Do 4 repetitions of this every day.                            2. Breathe in through your nose to the count of 4, hold it to the count of 4 and let it out to the count of 4.  Do 4 repetitions of this exercise every day.                     Cognitive Imagery Relax and picture yourself in a pleasant environment.  Imagine that this place is the most pleasant place you can think of.  This place should give you a feeling of safety and comfort.  Imagine all the sights and smells that are associated with this place.  If there are any other people in this place they should be comforting to you.  You can do this in a quiet, dark room, or while listening to soothing music.  Make this a ritual to do when you are very tense and need to relax.  Or make it a daily ritual. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Breathe the colors of the Rainbow This is another breathing exercise: Sit in a quiet pleasant room, eyes can be open or closed, Preferably closed. Picture a color, say yellow.  Think a soothing thought about yellow such as, warmth.  Breathe deeply and imagine the yellow is being breathed in, and the warm feeling is also breathed in.  Each breath should be deeper, and the color should be deeper in your body, until you can imagine the yellow is at your feet and you are filled with a warm yellow.  Next try orange or any color you want. Just remember that each color should represent a good feeling.  Do this exercise everyday. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx A meditation on stopping the war within Allow yourself 15 or 20 minutes for meditation.  Sit comfortably for a few minutes, letting your body be at rest.  Let your breathing be easy and natural. Bring your attention into the present, sit quietly and notice whatever sensations are present in your body.  Be especially aware of sensations, tensions or pains you may be fighting.  Do not try to change them; simply notice them with an interested and kind attention.  In each area of struggle you discover, let your body relax and your heart soften.  Open to whatever you experience without fighting.  Let go of the battle.  Breathe quietly and let it be. Then after a time, shift your attention to your heart and mind.  Now notice what feelings and thoughts are present.  In particular, be aware of any feelings or thoughts you are now struggling with, fighting or avoiding.  Notice them with an interested and kind attention.  Let your heart be soft.  Open to whatever you experience without fighting.  Let the battle go, breathe quietly and let it be. Continue to sit quietly.  Then cast your attention over the battles that confront you today.  Sense them inside yourself.  If you have on ongoing battle with your body, be aware of that.  If you have been fighting inner wars with your feelings, or have been in conflict with your loneliness, fear, confusion, fear, anger, grief or addiction, sense the struggle you have been waging. Notice the struggle in your thoughts as well.  Be aware of how you have carried on these inner battles.  Notice the inner armies, the inner dictators, the inner fortifications.  Be aware of all that you have fought within yourself, of how long you have perpetrated the conflict. Gently, with openness, allow each of these experiences to be present.  Simply notice each of them in turn with interest and kind attention.  In each area of struggle, let your body, mind and heart be soft.  Open to whatever you experience without fighting.  Let go of the battle.  Breathe quietly, and let yourself to join you at the peace table in your heart,     Taken from NATURAL HEALTH MAGAZINE May/June 1993 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx A Meditation and Visualization Exercise This is a guided meditation, have someone read this to you.  This should be done after a relaxation technique such as a tension and relaxation exercise. You are now completely relaxed and at peace.  In your mind, see yourself walking across a beautiful, green meadow.  It is a pleasantly warm day.  Feel the sunlight on your skin and the touch of a gentle breeze.  Feel it slightly ruffling your hair.  There are wild flowers of many colors growing among the grass.  Smell their fragrances and the freshness of a clear, spring day.  The earth feels good beneath your feet. Shortly, you approach a line of trees and begin to hear birds singing and the sound of running water.  You know there is a brook just beyond the trees and, walking now beneath the trees, you soon came up on it.  It is slightly cooler here, but the sun filters through the leaves and creates intricate patterns on the ground, and delicate highlights on the shallow, running water.  Hear the water, hear the birds and feel the coolness of the earth.  Reach out and touch the bark of a tree or put your hand in the water.  See, hear, feel and smell everything around you. Now you decide to cross the brook by using a small bridge or by taking off your shoes and wading across.  Feel and hear the water or the sound of your feet on the wood of the bridge. Once across the brook, you emerge from the trees and walk across another meadow into a knoll.  There you see your favorite tree.  Go to the tree and sit under it.  Feel the bark, smell the fragrance of the tree.  You are complete comfortable and at peace. From your vantage point in the knoll, you look around and give a sigh of contentment.  It is so beautiful and perfect, this physical body of the earth. Your thoughts drift to your own physical body.  It, too, is in perfect order. You take a moment and see and feel it

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greetings everyone I just saw my physical therapist yesterday.  I inquired about some therapy with applying electricity to bypass the damaged nerve.  has anyone heard of this type of therapy?  is there a website ? There was a message on this newsgroup earlier but I forgot to save it to disk.  if anyone can help thank you Dan

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Dan To my knowledge no research has been done to see if EMS (Electronic Muscle Stimulation) is helpful to prevent muscle wasting/weakening in MS. I would be interested in finding out what you discover.