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oh poo "BlueM0ZARK" <bluem0z…@aol.com
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People who use Free Agent do not have a kill file. Sure they do. The
proof
is here Jack- she’s from down under. those folks down there don’t read so well…
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BlueM0ZARK < The closest that you will find to a
"tinnitus expert" is Capt. Ron or myself. I’ve had tinnitus over 20 yrs.
I see. I’ve only had tinnitus for seven years, so you must be almost three times more knowledgeable than I. DH
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<I see. I’ve only had tinnitus for seven years, so you must be almost three times more knowledgeable than I.
being a smartass will get you nowhere fast
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We got us a regular lovefest goin on here. This is too damn funny! "Capt. Ron Yoli" <bests…@peoplepc.com
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news:ucc1vlgre6qf9e@corp.supernews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Simply meaning that we have a hell of a lot more > experience with tinnitus than the self proclaimed "tinnitus experts". > Gotcha
> Capt. Ron > "BlueM0ZARK" <bluem0z…@aol.com
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> news:20020423211236.17933.00005329@mb-fk.aol.com… > > <I hate to disagree with you, but neither of us is an "expert" on > tinnitus> > > I said "closest to". Simply meaning that we have a hell of a lot more > > experience with tinnitus than the self proclaimed "tinnitus experts".
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You’d be better off asking questions here: http://pub21.ezboard.com/ftinnituscommunitymessageboardfrm1
Tips from members of the Australian Tinnitus Association (NSW) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -
1. Avoid loud noise – travel with earplugs – fingers for emergencies 2. If possible for you, use hearing aid and/or masker 3. Keep busy, active and interested; especially in something YOU enjoy. Compensate for Tinntus with a dash of self indulgence 4. Be positive; try to counter a negative thought with a positive one, eg. "I won’t be down – I’ll go to town"… is one member’s symbolic motto. 5. Reduce stress whatever way possible; reorganise your lifestyle to be less rushed; better time management, prepare ahead. Resolve emotional problems. 6. Learn deep relaxation techniques and do them daily; make them part of daily living. 7. Use radio/TV for background noise even if you’re not listening. Ditto your favorite tapes. Using headphones will provide better masking. 8. Utilise background noise whenever possible, eg refrigerators, fans, air-conditioners, typewriters, driving a car. 9. Build up your own collection of ‘friendly’ tapes; explore nature tapes, especially those with water – sea, surf, rain, waterfalls, running streams, fountains. A Tai-Chi music tape might help. 10. Walking – especially on windy days or by running water or the sea. 11. Running – to accent your joy in being mobile. Exercise reduces stress. 12. When Tinnitus is bad, list everything in your life that is good. 13. Recite your favorite poems over and over mentally and enjoy their meaning. Learn more! Recite out loud too. 14. Sing and hum – your own voice may be good for active masking. 15. Play a musical instrument – one member with severe Tinnitus finds relief in shoving a jazz trumpet up his bot 16. Get all dental problems fixed, check there are no tempero-mandibular (TMJ) problems, it is essential that all dentures fit perfectly. 17. Chew gum – it helps some people, but not all. 18. Healthy diet. Low salt. 19. Pretend Tinnitus is not within you but project it someplace else in the room. 20. Try various therapies: Tai-Chi, yoga, massage, acupuncture, acu-pressure, hypnosis. 21. http://www.goatse.cx/ Tinnitus is a pain up the hole
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i’m with YOU captain ! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -
Nagleass "baits" people into believing that he can help them with his
voodoo
bullshit as put forth by that fat asshole, Jastreboff, and thus how he
pays
for his lifestyle after his failed career as a REAL doctor!
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"Elly Byrne" <e…@eebee.cjb.net.noway
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People who use Free Agent do not have a kill file.
Tips from members of the Australian Tinnitus Association (NSW) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -
1. Avoid loud noise – travel with earplugs – fingers for emergencies 2. If possible for you, use hearing aid and/or masker 3. Keep busy, active and interested; especially in something YOU enjoy. Compensate for Tinntus with a dash of self indulgence 4. Be positive; try to counter a negative thought with a positive one, eg. "I won’t be down – I’ll go to town"… is one member’s symbolic motto. 5. Reduce stress whatever way possible; reorganise your lifestyle to be less rushed; better time management, prepare ahead. Resolve emotional problems. 6. Learn deep relaxation techniques and do them daily; make them part of daily living. 7. Use radio/TV for background noise even if you’re not listening. Ditto your favorite tapes. Using headphones will provide better masking. 8. Utilise background noise whenever possible, eg refrigerators, fans, air-conditioners, typewriters, driving a car. 9. Build up your own collection of ‘friendly’ tapes; explore nature tapes, especially those with water – sea, surf, rain, waterfalls, running streams, fountains. A Tai-Chi music tape might help. 10. Walking – especially on windy days or by running water or the sea. 11. Running – to accent your joy in being mobile. Exercise reduces stress. 12. When Tinnitus is bad, list everything in your life that is good. 13. Recite your favorite poems over and over mentally and enjoy their meaning. Learn more! Recite out loud too. 14. Sing and hum – your own voice may be good for active masking. 15. Play a musical instrument – one member with severe Tinnitus finds relief in shoving a jazz trumpet up his bot 16. Get all dental problems fixed, check there are no tempero-mandibular (TMJ) problems, it is essential that all dentures fit perfectly. 17. Chew gum – it helps some people, but not all. 18. Healthy diet. Low salt. 19. Pretend Tinnitus is not within you but project it someplace else in the room. 20. Try various therapies: Tai-Chi, yoga, massage, acupuncture, acu-pressure, hypnosis. 21. http://www.goatse.cx/ Tinnitus is a pain up the hole
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<My ENT cured my tinnitus
Then you didn’t have tinnitus. Because…there is no cure.
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<I hate to disagree with you, but neither of us is an "expert" on tinnitus
I said "closest to". Simply meaning that we have a hell of a lot more experience with tinnitus than the self proclaimed "tinnitus experts".
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Simply meaning that we have a hell of a lot more experience with tinnitus than the self proclaimed "tinnitus experts". Gotcha
Capt. Ron "BlueM0ZARK" <bluem0z…@aol.com
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<I hate to disagree with you, but neither of us is an "expert" on
tinnitus
I said "closest to". Simply meaning that we have a hell of a lot more experience with tinnitus than the self proclaimed "tinnitus experts".
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The closest that you will find to a "tinnitus expert" is Capt. Ron or myself. Blue, I hate to disagree with you, but neither of us is an "expert" on tinnitus. Like I said, there are NO EXPERTS, PERIOD. HOWEVER, we both have suffered enough to offer suggestions and tell our personal stories to others ……. IF THE "TREATMENT WHORES" would get off this board and get a life! Will that ever happen here again? Who knows. As long as Nagler continues to show his pathetic face here, I doubt it. He just gets our blood pressure up. Cheers Capt. Ron "BlueM0ZARK" <bluem0z…@aol.com
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<quick question, who do you consider an ‘expert’? I know who is not considered an expert, who is one? None of these so-called professionals are "tinnitus experts" NONE OF THEM. The closest that you will find to a "tinnitus expert" is Capt. Ron or myself. I’ve had tinnitus over 20 yrs.
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<quick question, who do you consider an ‘expert’? I know who is not considered an expert, who is one?
None of these so-called professionals are "tinnitus experts" NONE OF THEM. The closest that you will find to a "tinnitus expert" is Capt. Ron or myself. I’ve had tinnitus over 20 yrs.
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My ENT cured my tinnitus. "Capt. Ron Yoli" <bests…@peoplepc.com
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I know who is not considered an expert, who is one? Ahhhhhhhhh You are starting to "get the point" DH! THERE ARE NO EXPERTS WHEN IT COMES TO TINNITUS! NONE, ZERO NADA! And Fuck anyone that says there are! Ask any qualified ENT! That is the point! Nagleass has "proclaimed" himself an "expert" and
preys
on people that are suffering terribly from tinnitus! Tinnitus sufferers are generally a desperate lot! It is a major cause of suicide! Nagleass "baits" people into believing that he can help them with his
voodoo
bullshit as put forth by that fat asshole, Jastreboff, and thus how he
pays > for his lifestyle after his failed career as a REAL doctor! > Good enough answer for ya? > Cheers > Capt. Ron > "D_W_H" <DoNotSendM…@home.nl
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> news:btlx8.53666$58.3784781@zwoll1.home.nl… > > BlueMozart, > > quick question, who do you consider an ‘expert’? I know who is not > > considered an expert, who is one? > > Who can post here as an expert and not get flamed? > > DH
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I know who is not
considered an expert, who is one?
Ahhhhhhhhh You are starting to "get the point" DH! THERE ARE NO EXPERTS WHEN IT COMES TO TINNITUS! NONE, ZERO NADA! And Fuck anyone that says there are! Ask any qualified ENT! That is the point! Nagleass has "proclaimed" himself an "expert" and preys on people that are suffering terribly from tinnitus! Tinnitus sufferers are generally a desperate lot! It is a major cause of suicide! Nagleass "baits" people into believing that he can help them with his voodoo bullshit as put forth by that fat asshole, Jastreboff, and thus how he pays for his lifestyle after his failed career as a REAL doctor! Good enough answer for ya? Cheers Capt. Ron "D_W_H" <DoNotSendM…@home.nl
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news:btlx8.53666$58.3784781@zwoll1.home.nl… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> BlueMozart, > quick question, who do you consider an ‘expert’? I know who is not
considered an expert, who is one?
> Who can post here as an expert and not get flamed? > DH
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BlueMozart, quick question, who do you consider an ‘expert’? I know who is not considered an expert, who is one? Who can post here as an expert and not get flamed? DH
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People who use Free Agent do not have a kill file. Sure they do. The proof
is here
Jack- she’s from down under. those folks down there don’t read so well…
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The board is actually a good example of what tinnitus can be like — useful information getting through amid all the noise : ). But MasterBlaster, I have read in several places that if you get a unilateral noise in particular like yours seems to be, it is a good idea to get it checked out because it could be an indication of something else (like a blocked eustachian tube, for example) that could have an available treatment. In my right ear, I get what sounds like a "big band" radio station that is just out of the reach of my ability to understand it. In that ear I have no normal hearing at all. At least if my mind is going to play tricks on me, it didn’t pick too dastardly a trick to play. Terri – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"MasterBlaster" <Nobody’s.H…@My.Place
wrote in message <news:VRax8.10790$n%4.658805@news2.telusplanet.net… "D_W_H" wrote I also realize if I make any remarks about … tone or language, I will be flamed in no uncertain terms as this _is_ a news group. I guess if I find this news group not to my liking, I can leave, and that is my plan. I really didn’t want to, but this is like walking through a field of land mines. I’ve pretty much come to the same conclusion, and I’ve only been reading the group for a week or so, due to the classic "TV squeal" that started up in my left ear a few weeks back. I don’t know if I should even bother asking any questions.
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"Elly Byrne" wrote
You’d be better off asking questions here: http://pub21.ezboard.com/ftinnituscommunitymessageboardfrm1
Yep, that’s one of the 3 (so far) sites I’m wading through.
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<Yep, that’s one of the 3 (so far) sites I’m wading through
wade thru this… Good advice for anyone "not" familiar with what is happening is to refrain from jumping in and posting at random. The reason there is turmoil here is because a number of us didn’t like treatment being shoved down our throats by some so-called "professionals", and the disabled being told they were not desiring to get better cause they didn’t try every "reasonable treatment." Guess who gets to define reasonable treatment? These so-called "professionals" toss around "success" stories and none of the data they spew comes from real life studies. They call this "science" and in reality it is garbage. They told the disabled that if they didn’t try every reasonable treatment, they should not get disability benefits. Plus, these so-called "professionals" have zero compassion, and simply aren’t decent human beings. Some of us keep pointing that out. When they leave permanently and forever, this turmoil on alt.support.tinnitus will stop. The biggest trouble maker, Nagler – has promised to leave "many" times. He lied. He’s back. And that’s why you see what you do and it’s not going to stop till Nagler and his minions are gone. They have worn out their welcome and harm far more than they help. Nagler has no formal training in otolaryngology. After a year in bed with tinnitus ( apparently !) , he set himself up as a TRT specialist, offering a discredited expensive treatment called TRT. He spends most of his waking hours policing the tinnitus message boards on the net. You may ask does he actually do ANY work !!! However be aware that the publicity he gets freely on the net is fuel for his TRT business in Atlanta. *NAGLER* to someone with tinnitus who disagreed with him about TRT:’ You are going to rot in hell for eternity with your ears screamingat 100 dB,but not before your buddies in the penal institution intowhich youare undoubtedly headed knock your teeth out and then over andover and over again teach you the only thing your vile mouth is good for’ *NAGLER* to someone asking about what jobs he tried to perform forincome during his one year in bed:"I’m finished answering your questions. And I’m finished trying tohelp and provide insight on this board. Now go to hell, Jack." *NAGLER* speaking to a woman about a subject they disagreed on: "You are a horrible woman, [name witheld]." *NAGLER* to someone who announced he had received Social Securitybenefits: "You irresponsible bastard. Go get a job." *NAGLER* speaking of tinnitus disability: "But tinnitus in and of itself does not make you disabled to theextent that you cannot find some employment somewhere. And if you cando that, you ain’t disabled enough according to the US government toget a free ride, however meager that free ride might be." *NAGLER* responding to a post by someone tried to help explain theSocial Security process:" [name witheld] is spiritually dead by his own hand, folks" *NAGLER* leaving – again – in 1999: "Either way, I’m out of this place." Dr. Stephen Nagler was banned from participating on the Tinnitus Support Message Board due to irreconcilable differences over board policy and repeated violations of posted rules. This ban was the result of a unanimous vote by 11 administrators from five different countries.
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<So learn how to use your killfile. Big whoooooop
I agree
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People who use Free Agent do not have a kill file. High Flight <j…@apk.net
wrote: D_W_H <DoNotSendM…@home.nl says… I also realize if I make any remarks about … tone or language, I will be flamed in no uncertain terms as this _is_ a news group. I guess if I find this news group not to my liking, I can leave, and that is my plan. I really didn’t want to, but this is like walking through a field of land mines. So learn how to use your killfile. Big whoooooop. Jack
Tinnitus is a pain in the neck Elly’s Tinnitus Snippets http://www.eebee.net/ http://www.tinnitusrelief.net/ http://www.alexandertechnique.com For email: eebee at bigfoot.com
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You’d be better off asking questions here: http://pub21.ezboard.com/ftinnituscommunitymessageboardfrm1 "MasterBlaster" <Nobody’s.H…@My.Place
wrote: "D_W_H" wrote I also realize if I make any remarks about … tone or language, I will be flamed in no uncertain terms as this _is_ a news group. I guess if I find this news group not to my liking, I can leave, and that is my plan. I really didn’t want to, but this is like walking through a field of land mines. I’ve pretty much come to the same conclusion, and I’ve only been reading the group for a week or so, due to the classic "TV squeal" that started up in my left ear a few weeks back. I don’t know if I should even bother asking any questions.
Tinnitus is a pain in the neck Elly’s Tinnitus Snippets http://www.eebee.net/ http://www.tinnitusrelief.net/ http://www.alexandertechnique.com For email: eebee at bigfoot.com
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"MasterBlaster" <Nobody’s.H…@My.Place
wrote in message <news:VRax8.10790$n%4.658805@news2.telusplanet.net… "D_W_H" wrote I also realize if I make any remarks about … tone or language, I will be flamed in no uncertain terms as this _is_ a news group. I guess if I find this news group not to my liking, I can leave, and that is my plan. I really didn’t want to, but this is like walking through a field of land mines. I’ve pretty much come to the same conclusion, and I’ve only been reading the group for a week or so, due to the classic "TV squeal" that started up in my left ear a few weeks back. I don’t know if I should even bother asking any questions.
Dave, There is another support group at tinnitusinfo.org. It’s the tinnitus support message board.No flaming or baiting allowed. Nice people. Check it out. April
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After spending a little time here (posting and lurking), I gather that there is no _real_ solution for tinnitus. I figured that out on my own years ago, but figured I’d see if anything was new under the sun. I have learned that some people offer a treatment which only offers dealing with the irritation of the ‘noise’ and not the root cause, per se. If I am mistaken about that, e-mail me privately (do a google search using my name, first hit) and explain in _simple_, _clear_ language how this treatment works. I also realize if I make any remarks about … tone or language, I will be flamed in no uncertain terms as this _is_ a news group. I guess if I find this news group not to my liking, I can leave, and that is my plan. I really didn’t want to, but this is like walking through a field of land mines. Dave Horne – The Netherlands
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"D_W_H" wrote
I also realize if I make any remarks about … tone or language, I will be flamed in no uncertain terms as this _is_ a news group. I guess if I find this news group not to my liking, I can leave, and that is my plan. I really didn’t want to, but this is like walking through a field of land mines.
I’ve pretty much come to the same conclusion, and I’ve only been reading the group for a week or so, due to the classic "TV squeal" that started up in my left ear a few weeks back. I don’t know if I should even bother asking any questions.
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