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Most of you know I still remain mildly affected, much less than most in here but that from time to time it all flares up and I shake like a wet dog for anything from 30 minutes to a few days and then it disappears, when done, for sometimes 24 hours but mostly months on end. Certain things cause me to flare up and for the most part I can avoid all that by forcing calm on myself because it is definite that if I get extremely upset, laugh too hard or get "emotional" for any reason, it’s all back again. Living like "Spock" has it’s advantages. Anyway, yesterday a woman driver near hit my car when she should have given way. Only a hard application of my brakes avoided an accident and of course I beeped her for being an idiot. She slams on the brakes in the intersection and yells obscenities, gesticulates and wouldn’t move. I happened to be going her direction and when it was clear she wasn’t moving and had blocked the entire intersection, I beeped at her to get her moving. She finally did and so did I, watching out for a small kid about 2 who looked like she was about to run out in front of me – but fortunately didn’t. In the time I was distracted, the fool woman who had cut me off and was suffering road rage slammed her brakes on in front of me AGAIN and of course I rear ended her. So I get out of the car and say to her to pull over as we now have to exchange particulars. She did that and my wife, who I had dropped off up the street to go to work and who had heard me beeping the horn walks to the corner where she hears one guy ask another what happened, both white guys. One says to the other "Some white guy just rear ended a woman. I am waiting here to see if she needs help if he looks like he is about to bash her". WHAT? It wasn’t ME who was gesticulating and screaming in rage. It was HER and suddenly, apparently because I am white, I am the bad guy. I have to pay the excess to get my car fixed and her car because SHE did the wrong thing, now simply because I had no witnesses. In the meantime, in the south-western suburbs of Sydney, kids about 18 and younger are throwing things at cops and not getting arrested unless they are stupid enough to get close to the cops and are then grabbed. When did is start that 50 year old white guys are the sole cause of everything bad and that if you are young, you can do what you like? Is political correctness the cause for all this? There is no doubt that had I gotten out of the car using a cane I would have been viewed differently but now I am up for $500 plus her excess (which, depending on her accident record may be anything up to $2500) which I don’t have because SHE did the wrong thing. So what happened to society that people like me are automatically in the wrong? I get home after working and am shaking the whole day because of this. I am definitely worse off as expected but apparently because I look "normal" for my age, I am apparently one of the evils of society. Is it like this in America? Canada? Britain? Any other country of the western world?

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You know about 15 years ago, I was in the same boat except my ms was cp from the start. My ms was so mild I could not get my GP to send me to the specialist. But the neuro got it immediately. In retrospect I wish I had kept more active all along. MS creeps on you so slowly that you compromise all along, but you need to be disciplined, MS to me acts more like boiling lobster, you realize the deficits only when its too late. I am very impressed with my wife’s yoga exercises but they are too hard and require time. — Quaecomque sunt vera —- "Gut-buster" <donot-st…@me.privateparts.or.else

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Most of you know I still remain mildly affected, much less than most in here but that from time to time it all flares up and I shake like a wet dog for anything from 30 minutes to a few days and then it disappears, when done, for sometimes 24 hours but mostly months on end. Certain things cause me to flare up and for the most part I can avoid all that by forcing calm on myself because it is definite that if I get extremely upset, laugh too hard or get "emotional" for any reason, it’s all back again. Living like "Spock" has it’s advantages. Anyway, yesterday a woman driver near hit my car when she should have given way. Only a hard application of my brakes avoided an accident and of course I beeped her for being an idiot. She slams on the brakes in the intersection and yells obscenities, gesticulates and wouldn’t move. I happened to be going her direction and when it was clear she wasn’t moving and had blocked the entire intersection, I beeped at her to get her moving. She finally did and so did I, watching out for a small kid about 2 who looked like she was about to run out in front of me – but fortunately didn’t. In the time I was distracted, the fool woman who had cut me off and was suffering road rage slammed her brakes on in front of me AGAIN and of course I rear ended her. So I get out of the car and say to her to pull over as we now have to exchange particulars. She did that and my wife, who I had dropped off up the street to go to work and who had heard me beeping the horn walks to the corner where she hears one guy ask another what happened, both white guys. One says to the other "Some white guy just rear ended a woman. I am waiting here to see if she needs help if he looks like he is about to bash her". WHAT? It wasn’t ME who was gesticulating and screaming in rage. It was HER and suddenly, apparently because I am white, I am the bad guy. I have to pay the excess to get my car fixed and her car because SHE did the wrong thing, now simply because I had no witnesses. In the meantime, in the south-western suburbs of Sydney, kids about 18 and younger are throwing things at cops and not getting arrested unless they are stupid enough to get close to the cops and are then grabbed. When did is start that 50 year old white guys are the sole cause of everything bad and that if you are young, you can do what you like? Is political correctness the cause for all this? There is no doubt that had I gotten out of the car using a cane I would have been viewed differently but now I am up for $500 plus her excess (which, depending on her accident record may be anything up to $2500) which I don’t have because SHE did the wrong thing. So what happened to society that people like me are automatically in the wrong? I get home after working and am shaking the whole day because of this. I am definitely worse off as expected but apparently because I look "normal" for my age, I am apparently one of the evils of society. Is it like this in America? Canada? Britain? Any other country of the western world?

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lobster, you realize the deficits only when its too late. I am very impressed with my wife’s yoga exercises but they are too hard and

require

time.

abdi, do you know what style of yoga your wife does? one of several things i did in a former life  ;-

 was teaching hatha yoga. there are

several different ’styles,’ some more active than others. long ago, after i was dx’d with M.S., but before i was disabled by it, i got together with an R.P.T. and the two of us designed an ‘adaptive yoga’ program which we presented to a local HIV/AIDS group whose focus was on using as many natural means as possible to feel better, and it was very well-received. the yoga asanas can be adapted so that what are usually standing postures can be performed from a wheelchair. when i was an instructor, i never liked iyengar yoga, in part because i found the style too rigid, and in part because of their extensive use of props — the way i was taught was NOT to use things to ‘help’ you get into the asanas, it’s getting into them gradually by working up to it. however, for disabled folks, this is actually a plus — enables you to get into the poses when you wouldn’t be able to otherwise. i’m not sure how much your abilities have been affected, but if you can still move at all, there are asanas that you can do, and if there’s an iyengar instructor nearby, you could ask for a consult — seriously! if your wife is very experienced with yoga, you might could also ask her for her opinions on how the asanas could be adapted — that might serve double-duty, if she gets frustrated by feeling that there’s nothing she can do to help you. i know dennis is like that, and i have to ‘let’ him help me with things sometimes, just so he doesnt start feeling bad about not being ‘useful’ enough. you can feel free to write me off list if you want as well, if you’d like to talk about yoga and the kinds of asanas you might be able to do. i never liked it when people dismissed hatha yoga as ‘only stretching,’ because it’s so much more — builds strength and endurance as well, can be aerobic, can be many things. but for those of us with limited mobility, there’s no ‘just’ about stretching — keeps contractures and such at bay! i reckon you’ve guessed, i’m a bg fan of yoga.  ;-

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Unfortunately she never practiced it with a real yogi, she has picked it up from various videotapes and a psychologist. So it is really a mish mash but when I try to do it I see how much balance it requires. She also gets a lot of calmness from the concentration of it and because I am trying not to fall, I really cannot concentrate. — Quaecomque sunt vera —- "rose" <rosedawn_sc…@yahoo.com

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abdi wrote: lobster, you realize the deficits only when its too late. I am very impressed with my wife’s yoga exercises but they are too hard and require time. abdi, do you know what style of yoga your wife does? one of several things i did in a former life  ;-  was teaching hatha yoga. there are several different ’styles,’ some more active than others. long ago, after i was dx’d with M.S., but before i was disabled by it, i got together with an R.P.T. and the two of us designed an ‘adaptive yoga’ program which we presented to a local HIV/AIDS group whose focus was on using as many natural means as possible to feel better, and it was very well-received. the yoga asanas can be adapted so that what are usually standing postures can be performed from a wheelchair. when i was an instructor, i never liked iyengar yoga, in part because i found the style too rigid, and in part because of their extensive use of props — the way i was taught was NOT to use things to ‘help’ you get into the asanas, it’s getting into them gradually by working up to it. however, for disabled folks, this is actually a plus — enables you to get into the poses when you wouldn’t be able to otherwise. i’m not sure how much your abilities have been affected, but if you can still move at all, there are asanas that you can do, and if there’s an iyengar instructor nearby, you could ask for a consult — seriously! if your wife is very experienced with yoga, you might could also ask her for her opinions on how the asanas could be adapted — that might serve double-duty, if she gets frustrated by feeling that there’s nothing she can do to help you. i know dennis is like that, and i have to ‘let’ him help me with things sometimes, just so he doesnt start feeling bad about not being ‘useful’ enough. you can feel free to write me off list if you want as well, if you’d like to talk about yoga and the kinds of asanas you might be able to do. i never liked it when people dismissed hatha yoga as ‘only stretching,’ because it’s so much more — builds strength and endurance as well, can be aerobic, can be many things. but for those of us with limited mobility, there’s no ‘just’ about stretching — keeps contractures and such at bay! i reckon you’ve guessed, i’m a bg fan of yoga.  ;- rose

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Sweet, sweet pain

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The Y sounds so great, how you have been so excited and talking about it. I looked into it more. The family price a month is really good, with so many things for all family  members. Seriously thinking on getting a family membership. I am interested too, in the pilates/yoga. I got to start out easy though, with my health issues. So far been doing a exercise bike at home. I feel it, in a good way… In the inner thighs, abdomen.  I do this right now just three days a week.  I got to do it easy, or I will end up in pain. Then be bed bound, taking pain meds, and the whole nine yards. I havn’t worked in quite awhile, because of health problems. I came across a ad in the paper Sunday. A job opening, for receptionist/clerk at a Y that is just 5 minutes from home. Its part time, and what I have been looking for. Put a application in yesterday, crossing my fingers I may get the position.  :)  ! Keep the great work up, you are doing so great!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Y sounds so great, how you have been so excited and talking about it. I looked into it more. The family price a month is really good, with so many things for all family  members. Seriously thinking on getting a family membership. I am interested too, in the pilates/yoga. I got to start out easy though, with my health issues. So far been doing a exercise bike at home. I feel it, in a good way… In the inner thighs, abdomen.  I do this right now just three days a week.  I got to do it easy, or I will end up in pain. Then be bed bound, taking pain meds, and the whole nine yards. I havn’t worked in quite awhile, because of health problems. I came across a ad in the paper Sunday. A job opening, for receptionist/clerk at a Y that is just 5 minutes from home. Its part time, and what I have been looking for. Put a application in yesterday, crossing my fingers I may get the position.  :)  ! Keep the great work up, you are doing so great!

Best of luck with that Sunny!  I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you. You realize though you’ll have absolutely no excuse not to exercise if you do get the job! ;) Monica — Started 01/20/04 362/337/250 "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good."  - Unknown? — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Y sounds so great, how you have been so excited and talking about it. I looked into it more. The family price a month is really good, with so many things for all family  members. Seriously thinking on getting a family membership. I am interested too, in the pilates/yoga. I got to start out easy though, with my health issues. So far been doing a exercise bike at home. I feel it, in a good way… In the inner thighs, abdomen.  I do this right now just three days a week.  I got to do it easy, or I will end up in pain. Then be bed bound, taking pain meds, and the whole nine yards. I havn’t worked in quite awhile, because of health problems. I came across a ad in the paper Sunday. A job opening, for receptionist/clerk at a Y that is just 5 minutes from home. Its part time, and what I have been looking for. Put a application in yesterday, crossing my fingers I may get the position.  :)  ! Keep the great work up, you are doing so great!

Thanks!  Good luck on getting the job! — Michelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws.  My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Y sounds so great, how you have been so excited and talking about it. I looked into it more. The family price a month is really good, with so many things for all family  members. Seriously thinking on getting a family membership. I am interested too, in the pilates/yoga. I got to start out easy though, with my health issues. So far been doing a exercise bike at home. I feel it, in a good way… In the inner thighs, abdomen.  I do this right now just three days a week.  I got to do it easy, or I will end up in pain. Then be bed bound, taking pain meds, and the whole nine yards. I havn’t worked in quite awhile, because of health problems. I came across a ad in the paper Sunday. A job opening, for receptionist/clerk at a Y that is just 5 minutes from home. Its part time, and what I have been looking for. Put a application in yesterday, crossing my fingers I may get the position.  :)  ! Keep the great work up, you are doing so great! Thanks!  Good luck on getting the job!

Thanks to both of you for the well wishes. I hope too, to get the job. If I don’t going to still go a looking and find one. I cannot stand to sit at home any longer. My energy has increased so much. I am signing up at the Y anyways, regardless if I get that job. Getting a family package, I think it will be a good thing for the boys too. I can go to the Y when they are in school. Or a hour or so after dinner we can all go.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Oh yeah baby!  I woke up after my first full weight lifting work-out at the YMCA with some wonderfully aching muscles.  No aching joints, just muscles. Arms, legs, abs, they’re all letting me know they’re there.  Most importantly to me, I finally feel it in my triceps.  Curves claims that one of their machines does triceps, but I was never able to feel a burn from it, and if the other women in my family are any indication, that’s gonna be a problem spot for me.  Yay!  I’m gonna try a yoga/pilates combo class today.  I was originally going to swim today, but I tried on my swim cap last night and it’s way uncomfortable, so I have one more bit of shopping to do before I can swim.  Man. Me, working out 6 days a week. Who woulda thunk it? Wow, you’re so AMBITIOUS!  AND energetic!  KUDOS to you for jumping in and trying it ALL!  You DO have a bathtub, right?  I LOVE my hot baths, ESPECIALLY if I’m sore from working out.

I dunno if I’m ambitious or energetic at all.  I’m only working out an hour a day, weights 3 days a week, and the other 3 days either swimming, yoga, pilates, or a cardio funk class I haven’t taken yet.  So far I’ve only done the weight training once, and today’s yoga/pilates combo class. I feel sore in a good way, but in the back of my head I keep thinking that exercise should be harder, that it’s supposed to leave me sweaty, exhausted, and out of breath.  Maybe the cardio funk class will do that.  I hope I’m getting what I should be getting out of the weight training.  Like I said, I feel sore, and I’m lifting enough so that I’m really having to push myself at the end of my second set, and the last couple of reps whatever muscle I’m working is actually shaking.  Yet I didn’t feel exhausted afterwards, and I didn’t sweat very much at all.  So far both the weight lifting and the yoga/pilates class are challenging, but not nearly as difficult as I thought they would be. — Michelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws.  My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

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Oh yeah baby!  I woke up after my first full weight lifting work-out at the YMCA with some wonderfully aching muscles.  No aching joints, just muscles.   Arms, legs, abs, they’re all letting me know they’re there.  Most importantly to me, I finally feel it in my triceps.  Curves claims that one of their machines does triceps, but I was never able to feel a burn from it, and if the other women in my family are any indication, that’s gonna be a problem spot for me.  Yay!  I’m gonna try a yoga/pilates combo class today.  I was originally going to swim today, but I tried on my swim cap last night and it’s way uncomfortable, so I have one more bit of shopping to do before I can swim.  Man. Me, working out 6 days a week. Who woulda thunk it? — Michelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws.  My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

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Oh yeah baby!  I woke up after my first full weight lifting work-out at the YMCA with some wonderfully aching muscles.  No aching joints, just muscles.   Arms, legs, abs, they’re all letting me know they’re there.  Most importantly to me, I finally feel it in my triceps.  Curves claims that one of their machines does triceps, but I was never able to feel a burn from it, and if the other women in my family are any indication, that’s gonna be a problem spot for me.  Yay!  I’m gonna try a yoga/pilates combo class today.  I was originally going to swim today, but I tried on my swim cap last night and it’s way uncomfortable, so I have one more bit of shopping to do before I can swim.  Man. Me, working out 6 days a week. Who woulda thunk it?

Wow, you’re so AMBITIOUS!  AND energetic!  KUDOS to you for jumping in and trying it ALL!  You DO have a bathtub, right?  I LOVE my hot baths, ESPECIALLY if I’m sore from working out. — Saffire 205/169/125  -  5′2.5" Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo:  http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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Yoga Training Question

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I live in Cincinnati Ohio and I would like to study Yoga.  Does anyone know of a good place that I could go to?  Could somebody tell me of a resource I could use to find a school. Thanks in advance Brian

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I live in Cincinnati Ohio and I would like to study Yoga.  Does anyone know of a good place that I could go to?  Could somebody tell me of a resource I could use to find a school. Thanks in advance Brian

I was in a traffic accident about 12 years ago and screwed up my back to no end.  I was fortunate to go to a physical therapist that was also a yoga teacher.  From there I was introduced to the world of Iyengar method yoga. In the matter a year I aligned my spine so that I was completely relieved of back pain. Mr. Iyengar was one of a number of Yoga teachers that brought Yoga to the west in the 50’s and 60’s.  He has written numerous books on the practice of yoga.  His book "Light on Yoga" has become a "bible" to a number of schools of yoga.  His latest book "Yoga the Path to Holistic Health" is really a must read for the practicing yogi. His students have set up institutes throughout the world and a system of rigourous training to insure that Iyengar taught teachers have a consistent method of teaching.  This includes training in physiology and understanding of physical ailments and how to tailor the practice to the student. Two Web sites about Iyengar Method Yoga can be found at: http://www.iyengar-yoga.com/ (this site has a directory of teachers for the world) http://www.bksiyengar.com/ Good luck, and enjoy the journey. — ~Stu

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60 and stiff

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I’m just looking into yoga for the first time seriously and I would like to know what kind I would be better off trying at my age and physical condition. I’m not fat, weak, or out of shape, but boy am I stiff, especially in my hips and lower back. Any help will be appreciated. Thanls, Rick

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I’m just looking into yoga for the first time seriously and I would like to know what kind I would be better off trying at my age and physical condition. I’m not fat, weak, or out of shape, but boy am I stiff, especially in my hips and lower back. Any help will be appreciated. Thanls, Rick

Hi Rick, Are you a vegetarian? I know there are people that believe that stiffness can result from calcium buildup in the joints. But that usually results in people talking about arthitis and joint pain. If you are not a vegetarian cut down on meat and junk food. Make sure you don’t eat an hour prior to practice also. I also have a lower back that I have to be careful with. But they say that exercise of the stomach muscles takes workload off the back. All I know is that when I stop exercising for awhile and hatha yoga my back starts telling me I better not make any sudden moves the wrong way. But it goes away for months at a time. Just slightly annoying. You just have to learn to relax the muscles in your most extreme position for each posture. The more you do it the easier it gets. But I wouln’t pass up exercise. I love to run and press weights. Then I do hatha yoga then pranayama and then meditation. It is great! All that takes a long time so when I start taking too much time on the exercise I spit it up one day exercise then the next day yoga etc. The older you get the more you need to exercise. The older you get the more likely you need to supplement with vitamins and minerals also. Body can’t utilize what it did when you were younger. Also on age – dementia and alzheimers can be slowed down to a large extent with a lecithin/vitamin C and B complex combination. Brain pharmacology is something I know a lot about. Believe it or not there actually is ’smart pills’. If you do a search on ‘nootropics’ you will see what I mean. I talk about the brain because the brain is flesh and blood too and it by way of the hypothalamus affects the pituitary and endocrine glands/increases in importance with aging. Hatha yoga stimulates the glands and enables you to control muscle groups with great precision and move energy. The body stores stress and hatha yoga releases it. Stiffness is a sign of bottled up energy. The stiffer you are the more difficult thinking is because awarness has the same degree of difficulty penetrating the corresponding area of the brain. In other words each part of the body that is stiff has a corresponding part in the brain and this is an energy block. By performing hatha yoga you stimulate the glands and relax the muscle groups and relive stress. Stiffness is also a measure of stress. As you advance in yoga, movement of energy in your body by you will be understood. It will not seem like a vague expression. I have reference for all the above if you want them. To quote from Hatha Yoga Pradipika – an ancient yogic text – 1.10 [Therefore] ‘hatha yoga is a refuge for all those who are scorched by the 3 fires. To those who practice yoga, hatha yoga is like the tortoise that supports the world.’ Mike Dubbeld – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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I’m just looking into yoga for the first time seriously and I would like to know what kind I would be better off trying at my age and physical condition. I’m not fat, weak, or out of shape, but boy am I stiff, especially in my hips and lower back. Any help will be appreciated. Thanls, Rick

I’m 58 and boy do I know what you are talking about.  Part of our physical "degeneration" as we age is decreased circulation and inelasticity in the muscles.  That degeneration is absolutely unavoidable, but we can decrease the rate of our general physical degeneration through exercise and physical activites. Yoga is an excellent way to become more flexible than you are, no matter your age, but personally I believe the benefits of yoga are more mental or spiritual than physical. What kind of yoga to take up?  I don’t think it really matters.  All the major forms are good. I would suggest trying classes in your area.  If you enjoy a particular teacher, by all means stick with whatever form he or she teaches. Read as much as you can about yoga too. Eventually, you will find a style that appeals to you.  And if you do yoga long enough, you will probably even do several styles. Gary Echternacht

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You may contact this guy in Shanghai – he can give you evt. more informations about a Kundalini Yoga teacher located in Hongkong: www.kundaliniyoga.com       Name: Joachim Mayer       This person is also known as: Sat Mander S       City: Shanghai       State/Province:       Country: CHINA       Phone: 0086-21-6856-2807       Certification: KRI Certified       Comments: Kundalini Yoga Classes for All, Pregnancy Classes www.yogafinder.com provides this information:       Facility:  Yoga Limbs       Contact: Dennis Hewitt       Style: Hatha – Iyenger – Ashtanga       Address: 8th. Floor, Al Aqmar House, 30 Hollywood Road Central       City: Hong Kong       State: SAR       Phone: 852-2525-7415       Email: Click here to send a message       URL: http://www.yogalimbs.com       Comments: At our Yoga Studio, students are instructed in Hatha Yoga with Ms. Wanda Hewitt. Ms. Hewitt is a Certified Instructor and her Diploma is on display at the studio.       We also teach Power Yoga / Ashtanga Yoga with Mr. Rob Lucas, who also is a Certified Instructor with his Certificate on display at the studio.       Code: 4370 — Sat Nam – Hari Har Singh FAQ altyoga newsgroup: http://www.altyoga.de.vu Kundalini Yoga: http://www.3ho.de/

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Dear friands, i want to learn yoga in Hongkong. Can someone give me information that where i can learn and the price thank you

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Seeking Yoga weekend in the UK

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Hi – I am desperately trying to find a weekend retreat or course, or whatever for a birthday present for my wife, based in the UK, preferably in the South. It seems there is no problem finding her a weekend at a health farm which she may be able to find one session in a weekend….  in fact there are a plethora of such opportunities…  but apparently no-one offers anything similar dedicated solely to yoga – I’m frankly amazed! Maybe its an obvious business niche!! Seriously, all I’ve found is a "beginners weekend" in Edinburgh… and she is far from requiring a beginners class by now…. has anybody any ideas or suggestions? Cheers Ian

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Many thanks for all the sugestions I’ve received. Got several ideas to choose from now :-) Ian

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I would recommend identifying who the well-established master yoga teachers are in the UK and then visiting their web sites or phoning for workshops and intensives. Also, didn’t Krishnamurti have a school in England. A quick search returned the info below. They might have some ideas on where to go next. Bramdean, Hampshire England   SO24 0LQ Tel: [44] (1962) 771 744 Fax: [44] (1962) 771 875 Founded in 1969, Brockwood is an international boarding school for 55 students aged 14 to 21. Set in 40 acres of beautiful gardens with a secluded grove, it is where Krishnamurti gave his public talks in England from 1969 to 1985. Finally, I’d recommend calling a local yoga studio to see what they might know. Try: http://www.triyoga.co.uk/ Namaste, Denise

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi – I am desperately trying to find a weekend retreat or course, or whatever for a birthday present for my wife, based in the UK, preferably in the South. It seems there is no problem finding her a weekend at a health farm which she may be able to find one session in a weekend….  in fact there are a plethora of such opportunities…  but apparently no-one offers anything similar dedicated solely to yoga – I’m frankly amazed! Maybe its an obvious business niche!! Seriously, all I’ve found is a "beginners weekend" in Edinburgh… and she is far from requiring a beginners class by now…. has anybody any ideas or suggestions? Cheers Ian

Dear Ian, try the "search teacher" section in the alt.yoga FAQ homepage. http://mitglied.lycos.de/altyoga/ I at least found 1 eastern workshop in England  through a short search: Event Name:  Easter Sunday Workshop Event Location: Manchester Greater Manchester ENGLAND Weekends: Weekends Available Style: Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga Event Organizer: Yoga with Granville URL: http://www.yogawithgranville.com Description of Event: Granville will be teaching a Posture Workshop at The Synagogue Hall, 8 Queenston Road, West Didsbury, Manchester, M20 2WZ. The first part ot the Workshop will consist of Standing Postures with special atention given to Twisting Asanas. After a short break for lunch we will then work on Inverted Postures including some variations. Event Code: 221 Last Updated:  03/20/02 Sat Nam – Hari Har Singh

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Best hatha yoga for health?

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I fear that the just of my message is getting lost. Even modern medical science has commented on the health-benefiting practice of yoga.  And some types of yoga have been criticised because some of the postures cause more harm than good.  There is nothing wrong with that.  Some protocols are healthy and health encouraging. My question merely asks, which hatha yoga practices are conducive to health and long life.  And, unfortunately, a person cannot try them all out on their own to determine this because that would be defeating the purpose.  Such a person would have dabbled in each and not really extensively studied one.

This relates to a parallel conversation I saw the other day.  Yogis have indeed tried out these practices over time and have come to conclusions about their benefits.  Why can not Mystik also try out things, research the effects and get back to everyone about how it went?  Why does it have to be other people?  You have to trust someone when they make claims about yogic practices.  But who would you trust? You can pick up books about hatha yoga and you can see the claims. Yogis measure health in a few ways.  The vigor of the spine and the quality of the breath.  To get this there is no one practice that can achieve this. But anyways here is a list.  I hope it helps, they are all good for your health (as long as you do not have the intention to hurt yourself).  I have just grouped the asanas into catagories, they are too numerous to name (after 10 years I am still doing new ones).  Since Yoga has a chakra system for communication of ideas the chakra most involved in health is the Ground (Muladhara) Chakra.  Staying rooted and grounded in the material world.  As soon as we become ungrounded, attention and energy is not given to the body to maintain its existence and problems can happen. 1) Pranayamas of all kinds, distribution of prana through the body.  This is probably the most important aspect of health.  Developing the awareness that there is something (named prana) and that by developing it and spreading it into the body it keeps the body healthy, youthful and vigorous. 2) Mudras, of particular benefit to health is a grounding mudra.  Thumb, ring finger, pinky finger rolled and tips of fingers touching.  Index and Middle finger together,straight and extended straight from the hand.  Both hands pointing along legs while doing simple pranayama in a seated position. 3) Bandhas.  Locking points for pranayama. 4) Kriyas, cleansing practices.  Nose, Eyes, Ears, Tounge/Teeth, Skin,… 5) Standing poses, building lines of energy and strength.  Grounding again. 6) Forward Bends.  Relieves stress in spine. 7) Backbends.  Opens the body, keeps the spine young, develops energy. 8) Twists.  Lengthens the spine, compresses the internal organs. 9) Sitting Asanas.  Lotus, Sage, Cobbler,… 10) Prone Asanas.  On Back and Front. 11) Inversions.  Headstands, Shoulder Stands, Plough, …. .  Reverses gravity on the body, changes blood circulation, .. 12) Moving Asanas.  Increases energy in the body. Perhaps there could be a discussion of a Hatha practice of the week.  Then one could go deeply into the details of what goes on in that practice, the problems, the benefits,… We could start anywhere, how about with Neti (Nose/Sinus Kriya)? Wade

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I fear that the just of my message is getting lost.   Even modern medical science has commented on the health-benefiting practice of yoga.  And some types of yoga have been criticised because some of the postures cause more harm than good.  There is nothing wrong with that.  Some protocols are healthy and health encouraging. My question merely asks, which hatha yoga practices are conducive to health and long life.  And, unfortunately, a person cannot try them all out on their own to determine this because that would be defeating the purpose.  Such a person would have dabbled in each and not really extensively studied one.

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" Dear decaf, And regarding your disease I can tell you that it is best to accept it and not to fight within. You are now in a position that you are often tired, have less energy – accept that. I know that sounds strange – one has to fight disease we all learned. I can imagine and know from my own experience that having high demands on my self how I should be – not tired, healthy, etc. – and fighting a disease with rejecting it within and not wanting it is VERY tiering and at least only supports the disease to stay within me. It is my experience that I cannot let go what I do reject.

Yes, there is a saying in French, "Ce que je r

where can i find Iyenger yoga online information?

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Thank you for your replies. Apparently I couldn’t find anything because I didn’t spell Iyengar correctly.. cheers. Shay

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this does look like a good book for yoga.

If you have a Costco in your area, you can get the book for $20!!

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Hi Stu All kidding aside, this does look like a good book for yoga.  It’s on backorder for several weeks.  Eventually it should come in paperback.  I currently read Yoga Journal, and also read books in between classes to understand the poses better.  The books I’m looking at most often now are Schiffman’s "Moving into Stillness" and Farhi’s "Yoga Mind Body and Spirit" when I want to understand an asana better.  Two classes a week is just right now.  My teachers are wonderful! Amy

I am so happy to hear this.  It is terrific to see that your yoga practice is flourishing after almost losing your teacher a few months ago.  Somehow when it comes to yoga practice good things always come our way. — ~Stu

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Hi. I just started learning Iyenger yoga, and since there are so many details in the different poses I was wondering if there is a site that has diagrams/pictures with the different poses. Many thanks. Shay.

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just started learning Iyenger yoga, and since there are so many details in the different poses I was wondering if there is a site that has diagrams/pictures with the different poses.

You might as well start at iyengaryoga.com Best wishes. . .

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Hi Shay, Here are a few interesting ones. http://www.santosha.com/asanas/index.html http://www.spazco.com/yogamazing/yogamazing2.html http://www.holisticonline.com/Yoga/hol_yoga_home.htm http://www.yrec.org/publications.html Cindy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi. I just started learning Iyenger yoga, and since there are so many details in the different poses I was wondering if there is a site that has diagrams/pictures with the different poses. Many thanks. Shay.

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Hi. I just started learning Iyenger yoga, and since there are so many details in the different poses I was wondering if there is a site that has diagrams/pictures with the different poses. Many thanks. Shay.

May I suggest a very new book put out last month that is comprehensive and has excellent illustrations; Yoga a path to Holistic Health by BKS Iyengar It has excellent illustrations of every most poses with and without props. As well as sequences and some excellent articles.  Don

where to get matts

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I am new to yoga, have some video tapes and would like to buy a yoga mat and blocks.  Does anyone know where in CANADA, preferably Alberta, one could purchase these items? Pamela Pamela Marriott Dancing Sheep Studio Weaving & Graphics Swan Hills, Alberta Canada

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Hi Pamela, I am from Calgary.  You could probably find some in Edmonton (at some yoga center).  Check out http://www.yoga.ab.ca/yogaab/props.htm . The fastest way would probably to order them through the phone or internet and have them delivered, either Canada or the US. There are lots of suppliers. In Calgary you could check The Yoga Studio http://www.yogastudiocalgary.com/props.htm or The Yoga Centre http://www.yogacalgary.org/pricelist.html . Wade

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i know that some sporting goods stores in the usa carry some supplies now. also some retail stores (ie- target, wal-mart) may also.  but i have no idea what retail stores are in alberta.  you may do better ordering on-line (ie- yogazone.com) ~lisa

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am new to yoga, have some video tapes and would like to buy a yoga mat and blocks.  Does anyone know where in CANADA, preferably Alberta, one could purchase these items? Pamela Pamela Marriott Dancing Sheep Studio Weaving & Graphics Swan Hills, Alberta Canada

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Ok I Need Some…

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Well as if you didn’t know that already !! Well heres the deal I would dearly like to get back into doing some working out or just plain exercise, but since this whole anxiety/panic thing has been happening I just can’t do any. For the first six months of anxiety/panic it was heavily centred around me having problems with my heart, or rather I should say me believing I had problems with my heart.  I have had 2 ECG a chest X-Ray and I got upto my Max Heart rate in 16 minutes on a hospital stress test treadmill and they said I don’t have problem ! although I still have a lingering paranoia about it. Now my problem is that any form of exercise has the potential to bring on a panic attack even climbing 2 or 3 flights of stairs, I seem to have learned to automatically monitor my heart/breathing rate and if I detect an increase then BANG panic mode clicks in. I used to do a lot of weight and aerobic gym workouts only 3 years ago and I long to return to this but I am so scared of having a full scale panic attack or even worse an Heart/angina attack (although I have been told I’m fine:-) in the middle of Gym that I just can’t bring myself to try !! Common people I need help/suggestions as my logical side of my brain KNOWS it will help in the end but as usual my Anxiety side wins again  :-) Pa

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well as if you didn’t know that already !! Well heres the deal I would dearly like to get back into doing some working out or just plain exercise, but since this whole anxiety/panic thing has been happening I just can’t do any. For the first six months of anxiety/panic it was heavily centred around me having problems with my heart, or rather I should say me believing I had problems with my heart.  I have had 2 ECG a chest X-Ray and I got upto my Max Heart rate in 16 minutes on a hospital stress test treadmill and they said I don’t have problem ! although I still have a lingering paranoia about it. Now my problem is that any form of exercise has the potential to bring on a panic attack even climbing 2 or 3 flights of stairs, I seem to have learned to automatically monitor my heart/breathing rate and if I detect an increase then BANG panic mode clicks in. I used to do a lot of weight and aerobic gym workouts only 3 years ago and I long to return to this but I am so scared of having a full scale panic attack or even worse an Heart/angina attack (although I have been told I’m fine:-) in the middle of Gym that I just can’t bring myself to try !! Common people I need help/suggestions as my logical side of my brain KNOWS it will help in the end but as usual my Anxiety side wins again  :-) Pa

Hi Pa — Please don’t take this as being a flippant response to your post.  But one thing that comes to my mind is trying something like yoga.  I don’t have the same problems you experience, but others have posted here about similar experiences as you describe.  Just an idea. I hope someone else who can relate a little better will have some other ideas for you! Best Wishes — Blue (favourite yoga posture:  Dead Man’s Pose…;))

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it. Cathy P.H.O.B.I.A. People Helping Others Become Independent Again Off-line Panic/Anxiety Support Group Learn about us at http://community.nj.com/cc/phobia

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well as if you didn’t know that already !! Well heres the deal I would dearly like to get back into doing some working out or just plain exercise, but since this whole anxiety/panic thing has been happening I just can’t do any. For the first six months of anxiety/panic it was heavily centred around me having problems with my heart, or rather I should say me believing I had problems with my heart.  I have had 2 ECG a chest X-Ray and I got upto my Max Heart rate in 16 minutes on a hospital stress test treadmill and they said I don’t have problem ! although I still have a lingering paranoia about it. Now my problem is that any form of exercise has the potential to bring on a panic attack even climbing 2 or 3 flights of stairs, I seem to have learned to automatically monitor my heart/breathing rate and if I detect an increase then BANG panic mode clicks in. I used to do a lot of weight and aerobic gym workouts only 3 years ago and I long to return to this but I am so scared of having a full scale panic attack or even worse an Heart/angina attack (although I have been told I’m fine:-) in the middle of Gym that I just can’t bring myself to try !! Common people I need help/suggestions as my logical side of my brain KNOWS it will help in the end but as usual my Anxiety side wins again :-) Pa Hi Pa — Please don’t take this as being a flippant response to your post. But one thing that comes to my mind is trying something like yoga.  I don’t have the same problems you experience, but others have posted here about similar experiences as you describe.  Just an idea. I hope someone else who can relate a little better will have some other ideas for you! Best Wishes — Blue (favourite yoga posture:  Dead Man’s Pose…;))

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   Hi Pa,         We all could use some couldn’t we :)  Have you considered trying some yoga.  It’s very stress-free and might help get you back into the exercise mode.   And maybe going for a slow-paced walk. Take Care,  Debby :)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well as if you didn’t know that already !! Well heres the deal I would dearly like to get back into doing some working out or just plain exercise, but since this whole anxiety/panic thing has been happening I just can’t do any. For the first six months of anxiety/panic it was heavily centred around me having problems with my heart, or rather I should say me believing I had problems with my heart.  I have had 2 ECG a chest X-Ray and I got upto my Max Heart rate in 16 minutes on a hospital stress test treadmill and they said I don’t have problem ! although I still have a lingering paranoia about it. Now my problem is that any form of exercise has the potential to bring on a panic attack even climbing 2 or 3 flights of stairs, I seem to have learned to automatically monitor my heart/breathing rate and if I detect an increase then BANG panic mode clicks in. I used to do a lot of weight and aerobic gym workouts only 3 years ago and I long to return to this but I am so scared of having a full scale panic attack or even worse an Heart/angina attack (although I have been told I’m fine:-) in the middle of Gym that I just can’t bring myself to try !! Common people I need help/suggestions as my logical side of my brain KNOWS it will help in the end but as usual my Anxiety side wins again  :-) Pa

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